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If an airplane is going 600 miles per hour against the spin of the earth which is 2400 mph approximately and the air plane is 30k miles up in the air? How is a flight going some where against the spin then back is the same time?

And how does the spin of the earth affect an airplane 30k miles up in super thing air? What is transferring the movement from the ground to the super thing air 30k miles up?

If an airplane is going 600 miles per hour against the spin of the earth which is 2400 mph approximately and the air plane is 30k miles up in the air? How is a flight going some where against the spin then back is the same time? And how does the spin of the earth affect an airplane 30k miles up in super thing air? What is transferring the movement from the ground to the super thing air 30k miles up?

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The Earth and the air spin at about the same speed. ~1000 mph. If the Earth and air spun at different speeds then there would be 1000mph wind storms all the time everywhere on earth.

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So wouldn't the plane be fighting against that spin on the return flight? Or does the earth and atmosphere change directions to accommodate each flight? I don't know what shape the earth is, but there are clearly some problems with the current accepted theory to anyone capable of critical thinking.

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So wouldn't the plane be fighting against that spin on the return flight?

Yes and travel times usually reflect this except when winds aloft changes things. This is also part of rocketry. It's why launching W, N, or S consumes more fuel than an eastward launch. As launching with the spin means you reap that energy bonus. Likewise, going the opposite direction means you pay for it. This is why equatorial launches are preferred as this maximizes the spin advantage.

All of which indirectly prove both a spin and a spheroid.

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Flight time differences are rarely more than 10 or 15 minutes to and from. Does that reflect 1000 mph rotational spin? And your rocket fuel data, comes from NASA? You trust those guys that have only ever shown us cgi ball earth? Funny how most peeps here don't trust anything the government tells us, but believe everything regarding this topic. Condemnation without investigation equals indoctrination.

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Can you throw a baseball? Does it move? If you turn around and throw it the other way does it stop moving? Is the air so thick birds can't fly? No.

You people don't understand physics. The earth moving with or against the flight pattern does change the time that a flight takes. Before trying to tear down a concept you don't understand, try to understand it by actually learning the concept.

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You think a baseball doing the same thing in every direction helps your argument? You should probably go back to physics class.

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Are u really thinking about what your saying? So air 30k up is going around a much larger circumference? So the higher you went up the faster you would have to go?

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How very convenient ( ˘ ͜ʖ ˘)

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Questions such as these show how little grasp of physics (or English) the flatsies have. "The air plane is 30k miles up in the air"? What? Thirty thousand miles up in the air? What?? I'm going to be kind, and assume the OP is just an asshole, rather than a total moron.

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Sorry 30k feet in the air. What is the circumference that high up? How much further is it traveling around the globe when it's 30k cruising altitude? So they go up that high in thinner air and the rotation of the earth going 2400 mph??? I'm guessing at the speed I don't know it exactly off hand... at that altitude a spinning globe some how doesn't do anything the airplane magically goes with the rotation and then back the other way and the time of air travel is not greatly affected? 2 hours to Vegas 2 hours back going with 2400 mph rotation or against it in an airplane going what ? 600 mph?

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Having travelled via plane from the US to Asia and back several times in my life, I can tell you from direct experience that there is a difference between flying with, and flying against, the rotation of the earth. Going from Chicago to LA, there may not be a noticeable difference, but going from Chicago to Narita, or from Hong Kong to LA, there is definitely a noticeable difference in time due to the rotation of the earth.

There are many things that affect flight performance, such as earth rotation, head winds, tail winds, storms, plane weight, plane shape/size, altitude, etc. Also couple that with the fact that pilots very rarely take the direct, straight-line path from origin to destination (especially when over the ocean).

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So 2400 mph against the rotation at 30 k feet it wouldn't be insanely faster? Something is just is not adding up... it does not seem possible that 30k feet away from the spining earth it would effect an airplane still? Especially in the thinner atmosphere

Eratosthenes calculated the circumference of the earth in 240 BC. Even before Christ, people knew the earth was round. I used to have a quite powerful telescope and I physically saw Saturn and Jupiter. They were definitely round. The earth is not flat.

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So how do you examine the math not adding up when people zoom in and see ships that should be well below the horizon? Or are those ideas just all made up hoaxes?

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the spin of the earth has very little to do with things above it, but there is inertia, and so things that leave the earth have that initial velocity. think about smoke from a match, it is going the same speed as the surface already, what would push on it to make it go synchronous with the sun? nothing, the atmosphere is also geosynchronous. go up a little bit, same thing, go up more same thing, eventually there is vacuum and nothing to change the velocity except gravity or something like a thruster.

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When you are in an airplane and you jump, why dont you slam 600mph into the rear wall???

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Lol.. yes I get that and that makes sense. But at 30k away from the surface how is that speed being transferred? What is connecting that surface speed with the speed that high up and that high up wouldn't shit be going alot faster to make up for the larger circumference that high up?

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But at 30k away from the surface how is that speed being transferred?

If you are inside a giant plane 60k high, and jump 30k straight up, do you then slam 600mph into the rear wall???

Learn science and stop being a nigger.

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Are you fucking retarded? I'm being serious.

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That isn't a question. It's a statement to "prove" your flat earth theory.

One thing ALL flat earthers have in common: absolutely no grasp of physics, or science in general. They put forth their ridiculous science, all the while denouncing actual science as "scientism".

Not a single one of them can answer where the edges are, except to say 'Antartica'. Sorry Charlie, but EVERY flat object has edges around the ENTIRE object, not just in one place. If that fact is too hard for you to grasp, pick up a plate, or saucer and study it, REAL HARD! If you don't have one, politely ask your neighbor if you may inspect one of theirs. If they refuse, go to your nearest thrift store, they have used ones for sale. You do NOT have to buy one, just pretend you are going to buy one. The same way you pretend to be a rational thinker.

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What? I'm not flat earthen. I am at the point I don't know what the truth is but I know in track and field on a tiny 1/4 mile track starting lanes are adjusted for distance from the center. I'm saying if a plane cruises at 30k feet that's 30k further away on a larger circle to go around?

You didn't answer anything I said you just started attacking me? How is it 30k feet in the air some how connects the airplane to the 2400 mph of the earth? Approximately? And then the atmosphere is thinner up there so connection would seem less?

You are using typical shill tactics Muddy the waters.. use personal attacks... change the subject... basically be a typical faggot jew gamma

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I did address your questions. Flat objects have edges.

As to your plane physics query? The gulfstream dictates wind speed. I've been on flights where we've arrived 30 minutes early because of a strong tail wind.

And your track query? It's the same distance in every lane. Lane 1 starts further back than lane 9 because it is further. Take a donut. Running a circle around the hole is much less than running a circle around the outer edge.

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Please op, please tell me you don’t believe in flat earth. If you do I will forever label you a retard. Please tell me you’re asking this question for somebody else.

is the same time

It's not the same time. The difference is noticeable even on short flights. (i.e. either the way there or the way back is faster)

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I go to Vegas 9ften 2 hour flight it's the same both ways depending on wind and weather not the fact the earth is supposly spinning at 2400 miles per hour

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If you are riding in a car going 60 mph, how do you not splatter against the rear window?

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