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I think we contribute to our own containment by not ever looking to what the rest of the world is doing.

I've read China neither has the mask mandate or the employment mandate. I've also read they have "the least cases in the world", despite being the most populated, and the origin of the "virus".

I think we need to start looking at the countries that are NOT subjecting their populaces to the covid scam especially this late in the stage. As what is happening now is more than akin to warfare and we need to know who are the enemies and the neutrals.

I think we contribute to our own containment by not ever looking to what the rest of the world is doing. I've read China neither has the mask mandate or the employment mandate. I've also read they have "the least cases in the world", despite being the most populated, and the origin of the "virus". I think we need to start looking at the countries that are NOT subjecting their populaces to the covid scam especially this late in the stage. As what is happening now is more than akin to warfare and we need to know who are the enemies and the neutrals.

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[–] 4 pts

Why would they have all that? They already are a communist nation with a social credit score.

[–] 3 pts

Yes they do. Their quarantine restrictions are insane as well and apply to some travel even within the country. The difference is sinovac is an attenuated virus so a traditional vaccine which is safer and if we had real world numbers (not the 95% horseshit for the mRNA garbage) probably more effective.

[–] 2 pts

There are mask mandates here in China for public transport and for going into places like hospitals.

When there are Covid outbreaks, local governments will often push lockdowns for a few weeks. If you visit a place that is considered to be Covid infected you will be required to submit yourself to a quarantine when you return to a place that is not considered Covid infected.

Although vaccinations were strongly encouraged and many people complied, the vaccination here was not mandatory. I was not threatened with loss of job when I refuse to accept any vaccination despite the fact that I interact with members of the public.

The people in the comments here need to stop pulling bullshit out of butts.

[–] 1 pt

Yea I should have clarified that there was no mandate on the VAX but their restrictions are severe and there are mask and quarantine rules. Their are some vax rules in HK and I believe Shanghai as well. I am not aware of any others but there were some issues where rural people who wanted the VAX were not able to get it as fast as those in the major cities.

[–] 1 pt

Proof?

[–] 0 pt

There are English news stories on it. A city in inner Mongolia locked down just today. Info about sinovac is readily available. The efficacy is my guess, when these came out phizer etc... Claimed that huge 95% efficacy rate while the claimed sinovac was only like 64% or something, however since its a whole virus and not one protein the sinovac vaccine should maintain more of the effectiveness across variants hence in actual practice I bet the sinovac vaccine is more effective and also has far fewer side effects since it is a proven tech. also the quarintine restrictions are on the Chinese consulate site in English its 14-21 days depending on where you come from and where you land. You do it in a hotel that's assigned to you and during that time you take multiple covid tests. Also you pay for all this.

[–] 1 pt

Mongolia is not china...

[–] 1 pt

They're doing another massive lockdown because 17 people tested positive. So everyone is required to get tested to prove they aren't infected or be forced into hospitals for ... I dunno. China is based in a lot of areas but not in this one.

[–] 1 pt

Despite most peoples false perception that Xi Jing Ping is some type of emperor, the local governments here in China have a lot of leeway on things like health policies.

Therefore, you do see a few panicked lockdowns occurring here and there in China, however it’s nowhere near the authoritarian insanity that’s going on in most of Australia.

[–] 1 pt (edited )

Yeah most of comment responses here are uninformed bullshit.

I am here in China right now and as of yet, I am unvaccinated. My employer asked for my vaccination status and offered a free vaccination but I was able to decline without consequence.

Although Chinese citizens were encouraged to get the national Sinovec vaccine, it was not something that was mandatory. Police were not knocking on peoples doors and forcibly injecting them.

In the location where I live in Northeastern China, by and large, lockdowns have been over for quite a while.

Caveat: I am not a Chinese citizen, I am an American citizen working here in China under a one year contractual system. The visa that I received and the contract that I signed had no requirements for vaccination. Because I am here under the contract and that visa I may have more rights than the typical Chinese citizen.

It may be possible that in my next contract they will try to insert a vaccine requirement. At that time I will have to decide whether to continue my employment or whether to accept a relatively safer non-mRNA, traditional vaccine.

By the way, the only place I have been required to wear a mask recently has been on public transport. People here in China are free to leave their homes and walk around without masks. Finally, all the shelves in the supermarkets that I visit are bursting with goods there are no artificial shortages.

So yes, as an American citizen living in China, my life is better than your life in the United States or Australia or Canada or the UK.

Your governments are fucking you over, stand up and take your rights back!

[–] 2 pts

how are you getting through the china firewall?

[–] -1 pt (edited )

Some VPN companies are very good at getting over the Great Firewall. As I am an American citizen, I have a US credit card I can pay for any VPN that I like.

Especially good are the VPNs run out of Hong Kong as these companies are probably owned by the sons and daughters of government officials.

No foreigner in china has ever been arrested for using a VPN.

Now, would I ever try to sell VPN services to a Chinese person? No, that would be a big mistake.

china ran a forced vaccination campaign on their population in 2019 before covid was really even known about.

[–] 2 pts

Isnt it weird how we only get shown media coverage of other countries doing things that increase fear and follow our government narratives.

[–] 0 pt (edited )

Bullshit. I was here in China at the time and I never saw any forced vaccination campaign. Yes I did see a vaccination promotion campaign but police were not attacking people in their homes in forcing vaccinations on them.

I also saw that testing was strongly encouraged and I was tested one time.

I have not been forced to receive any vaccine whatsoever.

[–] [deleted] 0 pt (edited )

https://www.loc.gov/item/global-legal-monitor/2019-08-27/china-vaccine-law-passed/

Since you aren't Chinese they let you walk around in the Disney world cities un-harrassed until you look behind the curtain.

http://www.chinalaw.gov.cn/Department/content/2019-07/03/592_3227420.html

I read several stories leading up to September 2019 that they had mandated vaccines and were already distributing them to large parts of the population outside of the western store front cities. There was a whole theory about if their vaccination program was actually what turned into covid.

[–] 0 pt

Yes, and many Chinese were subject to mandatory sodomizing holocough tests.

[–] 0 pt

It's too late for them anyway - they already have full on communism.