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They're a work-from-home call center rep. It pays well because they're multi-lingual. Never been in an office or even seen their supervisor except via video call. They tried for a religious exemption but was auto-denied because "they didn't express a sincere belief," and there's no appeal. It's get the vax or get fired with prejudice.

They don't see anyone other than their own family. No office even exists.

Has anyone else experienced this yet, and what did you do?

They're a work-from-home call center rep. It pays well because they're multi-lingual. Never been in an office or even seen their supervisor except via video call. They tried for a religious exemption but was auto-denied because "they didn't express a sincere belief," and there's no appeal. It's get the vax or get fired with prejudice. They don't see anyone other than their own family. No office even exists. Has anyone else experienced this yet, and what did you do?

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[–] • 27 pts

sue, never need to work again

[–] • 17 pts

My only advice to the guy was you're entering lawyer territory.

[–] • 12 pts

Right- because all of the lawyers are just chomping at the bit to help workers?

I've been wondering, all through this covid hysteria- WHY ARE LAWYERS NO LONGER LITIGIOUS?! There could literally be a 350 million citizen class-action lawsuit against the US government for a HUGE VARIETY of crimes/wrongdoings/violations.

But they are not going to take cases like this. People are going to be terminated for either "insubordination" or "without reason". In these cases, a lawyer would have to prove that you were not insubordinate, or prove that the reason you were terminated was "because shot refused". And even then, most states have "Right to Work" laws, which essentially means an employer can terminate anybody at any time, with "no reason given". You've signed a document acknowledging that you understand this if you've ever worked in such a state. This leaves you with ZERO RECOURSE when terminated in this manner.

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[–] • 4 pts

>WHY ARE LAWYERS NO LONGER LITIGIOUS?!

Because they still have to deal with the Jewdiciary, which now decides it gets to play daddy government for everyone.

Until a few judges swing from trees, this trend will continue to get worse for everyone.

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

Well since employers are now granting themselves permission to play doctor.

I am now a lawyer.

Feel free to ask me for advice.

[–] • 0 pt

@AOU looks like you have to give another happy merchant badge here

“until a few judges swing from trees”

Literally what I said about politicians.

Let’s go hypocrite, well?

[–] • 1 pt

the law associations have been overtaken by pilpul

[–] • 1 pt

The short of that is almost no judge or lawyer will touch this kind of case right now.

[–] • 1 pt

sue against jewish lawyers with a jewish judge ruling in the jewish courts?

surely that will work.

[–] • 13 pts

I've heard stories of remote workers being required to vax, but only on the web. It doesn't make any sense at all. I guess COVID transmits through phones or something.

[–] • 18 pts

It's probably a requirement for the companies group health insurance. The last company I worked for gave 'discount' to employees that were tobacco free. Then the next renewal it was a discount for 'normal cholesterol'. The the next year they tried normal BMI and all the obese womyn in HR raised hell and got it stopped.

[–] [deleted] • 20 pts

It's all fun and games until someone has to lose weight

[–] • 10 pts

I worked at a place like this. Thu did tests once a year for it and they did a pin prick of blood for glucose reading. 2 days prior my brothers dog chomped through a finger of mine, told her not to use that finger. So she grabbed it and hit the button quick like, then he fat bitch told me my heart rate was too high and to work out more. Made her cry calling her a fat bitch infront of everyone

[–] • 6 pts

Extra credit for making corporate lackey cry in public. A++

[–] • 5 pts

"Normal cholesterol" is such a funny thing. My grandfather and his brother both had high cholesterol. My grandfather was autistic about avoiding fat and anything high in cholesterol while his brother ate steak and eggs every day along with whatever else he wanted.

Both died in their 90's.

[–] • 3 pts

My grandmother died this year. She was 99. Always skinny as a rail, ate a good healthy diet, and had uber-high cholesterol according to her doctor(s). She was on cholesterol medication for almost as long as it was available. Never did a thing.

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

The the next year they tried normal BMI and all the obese womyn in HR raised hell and got it stopped.

Mmmmmmuhhhhhh kondishuns! Mai beetus iz lergic tu muhhmuhhh unfried salted vegetables!!!!!

[–] • 2 pts

This one wasn't on that company's insurance. They have VA.

[–] • 6 pts

Not phones. It transmits through the Windows 10 o/s, that why they all upgraded to Windows 10 when they did.

[–] • 4 pts

If everyone would just upgrade to Windows 11 we could beat this!!!

[–] • 5 pts

That's the thing, lot of people in IT know about it and already moved to Windows 11 with the latest enhancement pack. You have to have the latest one.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

It's the pathway to our version of your new normal.

[–] • 6 pts

I don't understand it either. They're being real asses about the whole thing.

[–] • 9 pts

There are so many jobs out there right now I'd tell them to shove it.

Still waiting to on the OSHA rules and to see what my employer is going to do, but I'm willing to walk.

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

Yep it's a new varient.

Low IQ individuals are especially susceptible.

DigiCovTard varient.

[–] • 0 pt

Low IQ individuals are especially susceptible.

lmao...

They seem to be greatly effected by the many variants and waves.

[–] • 1 pt

It is contagious through the phone, it surfs on the airwaves. We need to sell masks for phones, maybe some cute designs, some boomer designs, and some bling bling designs so we appeal to everyone in order to capitalize.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Just take one off a plant or a tree they are easy to find outside fighting covid

[–] • 1 pt

I like your thinking, we could save on resources and allocate more to advertising. I think fake book mom groups and lgbtqztkdbjsbf reddix groups could be a good start

[–] • 1 pt

Duh, it's a virus. You can get it from computers.

[–] • 1 pt

No wonder they 'suicided' McAfee! He could have saved us!

[–] • 6 pts

I have been working from home for 10+ years and am being fired Dec 31 if I am not fully vaccinated. Fortune 10 company

[–] • 2 pts

Find a nurse ro bribe to shoot in the sink.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

I’ve tried that. It’s harder than you think…. They’re awfully worried about fraud.

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[–] • 5 pts

There's always other jobs or ways to make money. There isn't a replacement body.

[–] [deleted] • 4 pts (edited )

Before she gets fired she should do her best to set it up for a successful lawsuit. She may decide not to file a lawsuit, but until that decision has been made she shouldn't throw away the opportunity.

You didn't say which country she works in. I'll assume it's in the US.

In a letter to her employer she should -Affirm that she loves working there -Outline the value she brings to the table (multi-lingual, reliable, etc) -Mention any awards or commendations she has received -State that she wants to continue working there

It's a small thing but it's to close off the argument the employer might make that she didn't get the vax because she didn't care about continuing to work there.

Next put the employer on notice that they are violating federal law -That the exemption is granted by federal law, not by the employer -That the employer does not have the authority to 'deny' a religious exemption -That the employer is not the arbiter of what is and isn't a sincere religious belief -Cite the relevant laws from Title VII and EEOC's interpretation of it -Request that the employer acknowledge the federally granted religious exemption and provide reasonable acommodation

The idea is to set it up so that you look like you gave the employer every opportunity to make the right decision. Cite appropriate laws and so on, and reiterate your request. This is to cut off the line of argument that they weren't aware of the law or were mistaken about the law.

All email communication should be BCC'd to a private email address as you want the evidence to be accessible after termination.

Now if they fire her she will have a pretty good case. When you have a good case there will be lawyers willing to take it on contingency. It's like setting up a volleyball for the lawyer--all he then has to do is to spike it.

[–] • 0 pt

That's very good advice. I am compiling a list and will include this, thank you.

[–] • 4 pts

If there is no physical office, they should find a blank copy of the vax card on the internet. Fill it out correctly and send a picture or bad photocopy to them.

[–] • 3 pts

Apparently that has been tried with this employer. It's CVS - they have access to the databases to verify the cards.

[–] • 1 pt

Can regular employers confirm a injection card as real?

[–] • 1 pt

The injections, for the most part, are recorded in state databases. CVS, being a pharmacy, has access to that database - so yes, this employer can.

[–] • 2 pts

This shit won't work for long. As OP says, there's a fucking database which I'm certain HR or "Safety Coordinators" will have access to. When someone gets the shot, it has a serial number.

If you falsify a medical document like this in order to retain or obtain employment, that's called FRAUD. This is fucking ridiculous, so sick of Clown World bullshit.

[–] • 2 pts

The worst that happens for making fake claims to HR is getting fired which is the same outcome.

[–] • 4 pts

Fuck dat, every company is hiring right now, time to bust a move

[–] • 2 pts

I'm starting to see more and more requiring the jabs, tho.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Move out of California

[–] • 1 pt

I am happy to say that I am not in commifornia, but there are plenty around the states that are starting to put this in the job description. Last one I saw was Lexington, KY.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

You know what to do fatso

[–] • 3 pts

Tell people you are a tranny and the ACLU would get involved...

[–] • 3 pts

I have been remote 15 years. 11 with the company I'm with. I filed a religious exemption and it was approved. I assume I'm not on their 'replacement' list.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

You're mudslime or black

[–] • 1 pt

Nope, very white, though I have a Hispanic first name and a typically black last name. Had people at work meet me in person and never talk to me again because they were expecting a black person.

[–] • 1 pt

Jesus Washington is that you ?? ....

[–] • 2 pts

He has the right to appeal, and he should file a civil complaint with the state on the grounds of religious discrimination.

[–] • 2 pts

I agree, but the company has denied her an appeal. I will mention this, however.

[–] • 1 pt

Companies cannot "deny" a religious exemption. It's not a request. It's informing them that they will accomodate your sincerely held religious belief and lawyering up if they decline.

[–] • 0 pt

It seems like it’s hard to find a lawyer to represent you.

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

Worked for the past 2 years without any problems.

Now they are the problem.

[–] • 0 pt

Yes. She's been working this job for a couple years now. No issues - until now.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Dependable until expendable

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