There are lots of folks, myself included, that view Q as a psyop, not because of the things Q was discussing or showing people, but because of the "just wait and trust the plan / patriots in control" aspect.
From my perspective all those things that Q "brought to light" were already spilling over or about to spill over, and Q was used to contain and the energy people were gaining with that knowledge and keep people waiting quietly for the central system to correct itself.
It's entirely possible to be in the same camp as the Q crew as far as positions on the pedo elite / stolen elections / commies / etc. and still not buy into the "white hats are in control" portion of the story.
Trying to spin criticism of the "trust the plan" part of Q as opposition to bringing pedo elite / stolen elections to light isn't reasonable.
Sure, Q created hope. But in what?
just wait and trust the plan / patriots in control" aspect.
Literally not true and only pushed by shills.
Q requested people become engaged, fight the information war, educate people, participate, rally, and vote.
Literally the exact opposite of what you said. As I said, only shills play the "do nothing" lie. It's not true and has never been true. Edit: anyone playing this card, at best, is an indoctrinated useful idiot.
Q requested people become engaged, fight the information war, educate people, participate, rally, and vote.
And what did that accomplish? The election was still stolen, the internet was still conquered, sheep are still blind, and people still got imprisoned for rallying.
Q considered the enemy allies and discouraged violence, which is obviously the only thing that will work at this point. People are being declared terrorists for whatever reason they want, and Q at best did nothing to prevent it, and at worst encouraged it knowing that this would be the result
And what did that accomplish? The election was still stolen, the internet was still conquered, sheep are still blind, and people still got imprisoned for rallying.
You may as well just type out, "I'm scared and I don't know what demoralization looks like".
And what did that accomplish? The election was still stolen, the internet was still conquered, and people still got imprisoned for rallying.
That's a lot mixed. It accomplished much. Which is obvious. Q said it would be but they would catch it. That is now revealing itself as confirmed. The internet is not captured as is evident by the ever growing censorship.
I don't think you guys actually understand what you are yourself seeing. That's a sign of indoctrination.
The wait and trust aspect has been heavily present in the Q community despite your claims. It may have been from posers within the community trying to dilute the message, I don't know.
Q requested people become engaged, fight the information war, educate people, participate, rally, and vote.
I strongly agree with all this, although voting has been pointless for a long time. But OP was attempting to paint a picture where anyone who questions Q is also questioning the exposing of globohomo, so to speak. And that's not reasonable at all. Some of us have been "raising awareness" about all of those things for decades before Q was even dreamt up.
None of us, at all, have been attempting to placate anyone. You're exactly right. The only people who insist you just sit back and drink a beer are retards that shouldn't be listened to. You guys don't seriously think we don't get annoyed with the retarded normalfags, do you? I personally have bitched more than my fair share about the retarded redditors, the boomers and the aspiritual morans who don't understand what we're talking about, what we're trying to get them to do or whatever else.
Many, many of us agree with you and your annoyance with inaction. We all want the same thing here. It doesn't make sense to cast this light on us. Instead, it feels like you're purposefully ignoring us when we explain over and over we do not just want people to sit around. There's a huge difference between trying to talk people out of going on some rampage and breaking all the toys because they're impatient and telling people to do exactly nothing at all because they will soon be saved and this mischaracterization is really pretty unfair.
You should take the time to listen to more of us, ask us questions and spend less time caring what retarded boomers on facebook keep parroting.
Completely false. Only pushed by shills. I plainly stated what is well know by anons. Again, literally only shills pushed the passive angle. Which confirms you are indoctrinated by shills.
According to you, you're even more passive. Which means, even according to you, you're worse than Q and anons.
This is why the shills push what is so obviously bullshit. All the antagonists actively serve evil (demoralization) and do absolutely nothing else. Yet they claim everyone else is the problem while anons are actively educating and fighting with information warfare.
What have you been doing?
I think we are on the same side. I'm against the shills that non stop attack the Q people.
Now why weren't you capable of talking like this in any other conversation we've had?
Refresh my memory.
My big question that never really gets answered what would have been different? If Q was not saying wait trust the plan no violence what would have happemd better? I don't know if anything could have stopped the communist take over but at least the Maga movement and Q what ever it was got white people gathering in mass.
Now that being said they are still brainwashed fools playing the jew game and not really being redpilled or pro white americans
If Q was not saying wait trust the plan
Q never once said that. He never said wait. He always said the exact opposite. The "wait" part is only pushed by shills. Q always pushed for action. In fact repeatedly pushed and advocated for action.
Any and all claiming "wait", or claims "trust the plan" means passivity, either didn't listen, is indoctrinated, or a shill.
TL/DR thread: According to you, not doing anything, all by yourself, you are doing more than Q and anons. But anons are stupid because they are not passive while you claim they are.
Then you wonder why people think there is something wrong with you.
If you don't do things the way the Q crew does you're passive and a shill.
And you wonder why people laugh at you.
Then answer. What are you doing?According to you, doing nothing is doing more. Whereas people who actually are not passive are passive. This is your position.
This is why people laugh at you and know you're indoctrinated, at best.
You're a gate keeping Qike. Say hello to your fellow rabbis for me.
If Q was "containing" the energy, what would you have had those people do without Q? How would people have organized, been inspired or kept from being infiltrated or shut down while having discussions without Q? Did Q give us the "wrong kind of hope"? Is that it? What if Q is a psyop and the entire aim is to inject in to a small part of society at first the ability to organize in a decentralized manner, to coordinate disseminating information and to help ease people in ways that don't result in misguided assholes burning down things that everyone else shares with them?
These are very, very lacking points of contention and I think you're arguing in bad faith here. Of course, I don't think it's your fault you're doing this. I think you'd just rather be with the crowd you think is right because you prefer to not have to suffer longer if the ones saying /ourguys/ are in control are right. The reality is justice moves very, very slowly. The good news is its force isn't able to be repelled once it manifests. Do you want a slow, lasting conversion, where there isn't as much room for the people pulling strings to escape, or do you want riots, burning infrastructure, briefly satisfying hangings and an eventual resurfacing of all of the things we hate? Do you know how many times we've burned everything to the ground and had to completely rebuild while the same kinds of people sat on the sidelines, laughed at us and resumed control soon after we got the societal operations back up and running again? I'll give you a hint: a fucking lot.
I think what's really going on is you'd rather not stomach the pains of continuing to know while others around you don't see how bad things really are. I think you've given in to demoralization and you blame more problems than necessary on other people. I think you're scared of what might happen if other people don't realize what's wrong sooner than you'd prefer. I'd like to remind you that some people have been fully aware of deeper depravities than you're familiar with for longer than you've been alive. I also think it's pertinent that you understand that there are indeed people who are much more intelligent, capable and determined than you (me included, so don't get me wrong) who are making active and intricate maneuvers to enact justice and bring about meaningful change. Of course, you're free to believe there aren't any good guys. But, if that's the case, I don't see why you don't just relent because, if that's the case, you're going to be miserable and ultimately die in agony anyway. Why not just get it over with?
These might be good arguments for normalfags, but to someone that doesn't just scroll /pol/ and reddit alternatives, it's always clear when you're interacting with someone who has a very limited view and is pretty much only capable of echoing what other people with silver tongues and finely crafted talking points have designed.
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