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I wonder why some people keep calling Steve Jobs a piece of shit? He was not a saint, he was arrogant and greedy, but that's it apparently. He was still a normal guy who just made computers. Bill Gates is a real piece of shit. He destroyed the OS market by bribing everyone with his kike money to become the monopolist, now he is responsible for making the mRNA fake vaccine that kills people. He is also forcing farmers to sell their land in order to become the farming monopolist. So I repeat, why calling Steve Jobs a piece of shit if all he did was making computers?

I wonder why some people keep calling Steve Jobs a piece of shit? He was not a saint, he was arrogant and greedy, but that's it apparently. He was still a normal guy who just made computers. Bill Gates is a real piece of shit. He destroyed the OS market by bribing everyone with his kike money to become the monopolist, now he is responsible for making the mRNA fake vaccine that kills people. He is also forcing farmers to sell their land in order to become the farming monopolist. So I repeat, why calling Steve Jobs a piece of shit if all he did was making computers?

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Along with other issues, such as mentioned by MuricaPersonified, Jobs was neither a genius or a visionary. He was good at promoting -- products and himself -- and he had some good ideas but so did many of the people who worked with or for him. Yet a whole generation treats him like a fucking god. Did you know that the form of cancer he died from is very treatable but he instead chose to follow some health regimen that did nothing except guarantee he'd die.

And BTW he didn't make computers. Wozniak and other talented engineers did that. Sure Jobs had lots of ideas for computers but many of them were total crap. The early Macs, for example, had a mouse with only one button. So you'd single click, or double click, or in some cases triple click and even quadruple click. It was the stupidest design decision ever, yet Jobs insisted on it because he felt the average user was too dumb to understand 2 buttons.

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All of what you say is true but everyone misses the one thing he was GREAT at:

  • Jobs was absolutely the best at understanding what his customers wanted before they wanted it and simplifying the product experience to the absolute minimum in order to maximize the user experience that his customer wanted.

Most people that talk about Jobs don't fully appreciate nor understand this. Example #1: Jobs created the iPod at a time when we had an infinite number of mp3 players on the market to choose from. Example #2: Jobs created the iPhone at a time where we had an infinite number of cel phones and smartphones to choose from, I still have my iPaq for posterity.

Althought I can point to a lot of products to explain what I mean, the best example is any interview where he is on stage sitting and having a conversation with an interviewer and perhaps a few other people.

You will see the DRAMATIC, and I mean ABSOLUTELY DRAMATIC difference in how Jobs is able to synthesize complex ideas down into simplest forms. Everyone else on the stage either doesn't understand how big of a mental map he had about the world he lived in to draw from and certainly none of them had the kind of weird focus that he had to take that data and synthesize it down to an idea that he was able to explain clearly. Everyone else does the normal white person bullshit which is get lost in the weeds of the details.

I always learn from my enemies, but I don't celebrate Jobs because he isn't white. He is Syrian, a semite.

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IDK, the Lisa was a giant "close but no cigar". Lots of people have 'great' ideas but don't get to try to realize them. Jobs did, for a multitude of reasons. Saying that he was able to "synthesize complex ideas down into simplest forms" is meaningless when you're the pushiest asshole in the room.

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I wonder if a big part of why Apple actually made it through those early years was because of all the government contracts. I remember that all my elementary and middle schools computers were those retarded Macs

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Totally not because MS decided to buy up 250,000,000 in Apple equity/stock as a way to go around the anti monopoly issues

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I recall my first lab that used Macs. It was like taking 2 steps backwards. There was no way that different = better. In fact all it did was add several layers of complexity without any real benefit. That's not the same thing as better.

>He was good at promoting -- products and himself

Corporate management in a nutshell. They never do anything themselves, but use the accomplishments of others to promote themselves as successful.