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[–] 9 pts

They can't admit it was all for nothing.

[–] 6 pts

That's what pissed me off about Trump saying "Your sacrifice wasn't in vain."

No, not at all, they just fought for 20 years only to leave the enemy better off than when they started. Oil companies got rich, opium kept the drug pushers rich, and people died for nothing. Sure, not in vain at all.

[–] 3 pts

He should have just apologized for the fuckery.

I'm a Trump supporter, but he is not perfect by any means.

[–] 0 pt

Trump should have let the nigger gibs run out and sent the military after the cartels in Mexico. That’s how you solve those two Problems. You let the niggers eat each other. Then Mexicans won’t be fleeing Mexico in record numbers cause they won’t be worried about the cartel kidnapping their family

[–] 0 pt

The fact that you call Afghanistan "the enemy" proves how effective propaganda is.

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Thank dementia Joe for the shitty pull out, and not destroying military vehicles left behind.

[–] 4 pts (edited )

Wrong. Some of us knew it was all going to be for nothing almost from the start.

I first deployed to AFG in 2002. The entire operation should have started with us kicking the mortal shit out of anything that even looked like it needed a good kicking, and ended with us nailing a note to the front door of the presidential palace in Kabul saying, "Get your shit together. If you fuck up again, we'll come back." And leaving.

So I was there when they made to decision to go from a short-term, Special Operations centric, kinetic, kill-capture model, to a long-term "hearts and minds", "nation-building" model, to bring lasting peace and liberal democracy to people who, in their entire history, have never shown any desire whatsoever for either.

And then I spent a total of 7 years of my life, boots on the ground time there, one deployment at a time, away from my family, everywhere from Mazar-i-Sharif to Garmsir , and from JBad to Herat.

Every time I deployed to AFG again, I would look around at some new facility that was being built, or some new patch of concrete that was being poured, and I would ask whoever was in charge the same question: "Hey, what do you guys think the Taliban are going to do with all this shit after we leave?"

And I never got a straight answer. They'd give a wry smile, a shake of the head, a shrug of the shoulders and that was it. They knew as well as I did.

So I retired. And I, the thick-browed, knuckle-dragging, mouth-breather at the back of the room, have been sitting back on my fundament, comfortably observing exactly what I had been predicting would happen for the last 20 years, transpire. From a great distance, a cold beer in my hand, and with no small amount of wry amusement. Go figure.

While all of the wise and powerful sages in the "Five-Sided-Wind-Tunnel" in Arlington, the lace panty crowd in Foggy Bottom, and the wizards of smartness in McLean stand around and scratch their collective asses while they watch what they said couldn't, wouldn't, shouldn't ever happen, actually happen.

I got to see the best efforts and lives of the best people and Americans that I will ever have the privilege and honor of knowing, pissed away by a bunch of sociopathic, narcissistic, retards that I wouldn't trust to competently run a lemonade stand.

We knew then, and we know now exactly what it was all worth. And yes, we are outraged. And no, you don't get to hear what happens next.

You don't know? Exactly.

[–] 0 pt

Eloquent put.

Glad you made it through.

[–] 2 pts (edited )

Thanks. To answer your original question though: We currently have the lowest percentage of veterans, as a percentage of total population ever in our history. If you add up the total of all those currently serving right now, in all of the services, Coast Guard included, and all of the currently living veterans who have completed their time in service, it comes to about 0.045% of the whole population.

Less than 1/2 of one percent.

That's part of why you're not hearing anything. It has been decided by TPTB that we simply don't represent a large enough single issue voting block to listen to, so who gives one single solitary quantum of a gnats ass about what 0.045% of the total population has to say about anything?

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pissed away by a bunch of sociopathic, narcissistic, retards that I wouldn't trust to competently run a lemonade stand.

Kek.

FUCK, its good to know people like you are up and about.

[–] 5 pts

Many of these vets didn’t yell and scream and raise hell. They got busy. They contacted buddies, who contacted their buddies, and it rippled out. Then they got busy and rescued people from Afghanistan. There have been several articles here on poal on this.

They are making noise. But who in the fake media is going to share their voices? Not a single one.

[–] 3 pts

They don't want to lose their vet benefits.

[–] 2 pts

We veterans have learned since Viet Nam that it doesn't accomplish anything to bitch about it. It won't change a thing. The arms dealers and the medical suppliers are flush, just waiting for the next "pointless" war.

[–] 0 pt

It's exactly this. It's a scam that no one wants to acknowledge.

[–] 2 pts

I don't understand why regular US taxpayers aren't enraged about their government loosing shitload of money in Afghanistan. Where are protests? Why no one is demanding to investigate useless spendings and abandoning of money/equipment?

[–] 1 pt

Because they have known for years that it was all in vain. Now the bandaid has been finally ripped off.

[–] 1 pt (edited )

Why do you expect ZOGbots to think for themselves goy? Watch how these braindead morons are trained, they're basically dogs, but that's insulting to actual dogs.

What do you think basic training and all the training afterwards if for and does to people?

[–] 2 pts

You make a good point. I was watching some basic and boot camp videos, and the conditioning to obey is so extreme.

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Because the Middle East vets got it good compared to the poor old guys in the Vietnam and Korean wars. Imagine dying in a rice paddy fighting commies only to see your government become commies… or coming home and being spit on. These new vets get respect and lots of support, The old ones were just used and abused by Uncle Sam and the US citizens.

I’m outraged

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My vet buddies are just trying to keep it together and not kill themselves.

There's no Illiad for futility on this scale. No map for the territory. No way to make it make sense. It's a psychological cataclysm.

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There's that guy that yelled at Bush.

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