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I see this popping up: that folk are actually dying/being placed on ventilators in order to be killed. i would like to discuss this,

I see this popping up: that folk are actually dying/being placed on ventilators in order to be killed. i would like to discuss this,

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[–] • 9 pts (edited )

In case of COVID it is not the ventilators themselves that are the cause of death, but the protocol that goes with it.

The two most important points here:

  1. When they put them on ventilators they also put them on Remdesivir. Remdesivir is supposed to be this "miracle drug" for Covid, but it's just another scam with Fauci behind the wheels. Remdesivir causes kidney failure, and the kidney failure is what leads to a cascade of detrimental issues that eventually kills the patient.

  2. Putting Covid patients on ventilators is the wrong thing to do in the first place. In the later stages of the disease the body's ability to transport oxygen is failing. The problem is in the blood, not in the lungs. If they would have given the patients Ivermectin or HCQ immidiately upon admission, it most likely would never have lead to the ventilator stage in the first place. The ventilator is just the sign of everything that has gone wrong up till then, and everything that is continuing to go wrong because the treatment protocol is, either deliberately or due to incompetence, failing.

Listen to Dr. Bryan Ardis for more info here https://www.bitchute.com/video/IC2LQQpieYl6/

[–] • 3 pts

Also this one talks about the same thing: https://rumble.com/vmony5-covid-nurse-whistle-blower-pcr-test-false-positives-inflated-covid-rate.html

They give them remdesivir and then leave them lying in the bed instead of get the patients up and get them moving.

[–] • 2 pts

Thank you that's a great post and I'll look at the bitchute video.

The ICU actually monitors and displays blood oxygen, so you're right about the wreckless nature of using a ventilator to brute force air into the lungs when it's clear the lungs are not taking oxygen into the bloodstream. Medical professionals should see that day after day then realise they need a different approach; this happening right at the start of "the pandemic" might be excused, but not 18 months in...

It keeps circling back to, as you say, things feeling deliberate, incompetent or incorrect.

It might be interesting to see what percentage of covid deaths occurred at home/outside the hospital!

[–] • 5 pts (edited )

I see this popping up: that folk are actually dying/being placed on ventilators in order to be killed

If he was in USA, it was TO KILL HIM.

Hospitals were rewarded with $36,500 dollars from feds , no matter what, if they could put a person on a ventilator and they died.

If he was on his stomach on the ventilator, and a non-nigger nurse, then 60% less deaths.

US ventilators have 14 mandatory dials, and nigger nurses are incapable of passing a test on how to operate one. Automatic ventilators are illegal medical devices.

BACK OR STOMACH?

WAS HE ON BACK OR STOMACH!!!??? This is critical, because COVID-19 ace2 receptors attacked in lungs spared rear upper back part of lungs, allowing oxygen and preventing brain damage IF PATIENT ON STOMACH, the pooling goo would not interfere with good part of lungs.

Many papers written on this discovery long ago.

If they really cared about saving White patients, Hospitals would use the famous INSTANT CURE called the "Trump Cure" which works perfectly even in SEVERE cases of people on ventilators.

But Hospitals wanted the $36,500 to kill white old voters.

[–] • 0 pt

Cheers buddy, good info in your post.

However this was a few years ago, before/unrelated to covid, so luckily he avoided all this crap haha. To clarify, the vents/ICU came as a result of brain damage which came as a result of botched heart surgery which came as a result of blunt force trauma accident at work.

He had regular bedside care regarding turning over etc, though his general pose was laid up on his back. Also the tubing had certain vacuums to clean shit up etc. I mention these because bedside care for covid ppl would be similar, and for ventilation to lead to death, leans itself to neglect (Gibs me$36k), as you said

[–] • 2 pts

Doesn't sound like he was intubated as "treatment" for a respiratory cold though. So the case isn't really a parallel for the stories we're being fed.

Pneumonia/fluid filling the lungs/trouble breathing/lie them on their back/tube them/overpressurize.

[–] • 0 pt

Thanks for the insight and yes your observation is correct, that he had no respiratory condition - he was just on the ventilator as part of the ICU. (But several months of ventilation didnt really injure him, that is what I am clarifying)

so surely there is or was medical protocol about not being able to intubate those with respiratory conditions or at least specific guidelines to monitor? It's confusing, because on one side it seems the ventilator is the last chance saloon/by the time you're on it you are already fucked by the respiratory disease, but then conversely, there are those who say that healthy people are essentially placed on these and these destroy the lungs, I.e. they may have recovered otherwise. (Also lets assume all of this virus is a hoax, then wtf could be happening?)

Somewhere in the middle... It just seems like neglect: medical staff should fully understand how to use this gear in conjunction with known respiratory disease, OR there is a serious damage caused to the tissue prior to intubation by something.

If death by ventilators originates from regular situations such as pneumonia and has nothing to do with SARS-COV2, those protocols should be known and the deaths generally avoidable.

It gets tricky though, when you consider that COVID (the disease) could be "real" but SARS-COV2 (the virus said to cause covid) may not be, in other words, any assortment of respiratory conditions will be classed as covid and treated as covid, instead of whatever conditions are actually present (I.e. treat exclusively for "Pneumonia/fluid filling the lungs/trouble breathing/lie them on their back/tube them/overpressurize.")

[–] • 1 pt (edited )

If death by ventilators originates from regular situations such as pneumonia and has nothing to do with SARS-COV2, those protocols should be known and the deaths generally avoidable.

You're missing the part where all these medical professionals are conflating deaths with COHEN19 and death of COHEN19. And you're forgetting the financial incentives hospitals had for intubating people whether they needed the treatment or not. Nurses were recorded talking about how they sedated and intubated people because they were scared they'd get the vid if they left patients awake and coughing.

You're also overlooking the reality that these jew-backed institutions are already intentionally killing thousands upon thousands of people each year with pharmaceutical products and malpractice. What's one more method to add to the mix?

[–] • 0 pt

Sadly those points are the backbone of how I picture it, my friend! If it seems I'm overlooking things, it's only optimism. If anything I'm using my father kind of like evidence to say that ventilators dont just kill ppl, and I'm reinforcing what you say. It's like you say - if the vents kill ppl in 2 weeks, it's probably by design...

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

doping a healthy person and putting them on a vent, is not exactly a death sentence

taking a very sick person who is still breathing but has low blood oxygen, and inducing a coma with sedatives has a high risk of death. not exactly a death sentence, no, but extremely high risk procedure that is unnecessary and has killed countless numbers in this covid scam

sorry about your father but i'm not sure what your point is regarding unnecessary invasive ventilation

[–] • 2 pts

Nurse Erin, the whistleblower nurse who exposed the malpractice occurring early in in the pandemic, that hospitals are giving to all covid patients.

[–] • 1 pt

The ventilator causing death is being pushed by controlled opposition, always be skeptical of the big outlets

[–] • 1 pt

5 years ago my dad was vented before he died. I'm not blaming the vent in his case but this is what I learned from the experience. 1. Venting with intubation through the mouth can only be short term (less than 2 weeks) before it severely damages throat muscles etc. 2. Next step is to intubate through a cut in the throat for long term vent. 3. Once you start putting tubes and cuts in people in a hospital you introduce places for germs and bacteria to get into the body (sepsis is a big killer of hospital patients and my dad died with it/of it in addition to everything else). So my point is that a vent is/should only be a desperate measure protocol because once started it can go sideways quick.

[–] • 0 pt

Sorry for your loss and the way it happened buddy. Those were some great points you added there.

From one to another, live strong

[–] • 1 pt

to use a vent. 1 you have to be dying 2 you have to be sedated 3 when on a vent you have a 20% chance of survival (before covid)

[–] • 0 pt

because his body began to breath again the hospital withdrew food and water until he would die

Wouldn't that require family consent?

[–] • 1 pt

I think so, in theory, but sadly not in practice. I caught them doing it before asking where his water drip was, then contacted a lawyer who immediately contacted the hospital and then they reinstated the water and food. Fuck knows, he lasted another few weeks withput any ICU gear, just food, water, catheter etc, until organ failure

It's just so degrading though, unplugging water tubes from a human to kill it. I pressed them on how they hoped this would physically kill him; what organs would fail from dehydration first etc. It was horrific start to finish.

Also in the last week, I had security called on me because stupidly, I was pretty lucid about asking if I could just put a pillow over his face or get him on my shoulder and I dunno, cart him him outside to due on a beach or some shit. Bastards removed me and said that would be manslaughter charge lol

[–] • 1 pt

Inhumane to let an animal suffer like that but just fine for a human.

[–] • 0 pt

sounds like not in usa to me

[–] • 0 pt

It sounds exactly like the USA to me.

[–] • 0 pt

Intubation on a patient that does not have an active infection to fight is fine. As others already posted, it damages your lungs, which are badly required and one of the first damaged organs by infection when you have a bad flu.

Your father would have a lung with microlesions, but since both were somewhat healthy to begin with, it wasnt an issue.

[–] • 0 pt

no other options when a patient gets under 50% oxy

[–] • 0 pt

There are multiple options. Theres for instance doing absolutely nothing, which kills less than 90% of the people in these cases.