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Yes we've all seen the news reels of the 2nd plane hitting the tower but what about home videos? The other videos seem to indicate no plane on the second tower.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4BLoj8fEpz0 https://archive.org/details/911noplane https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=07PdXzo4s8Y

Yes we've all seen the news reels of the 2nd plane hitting the tower but what about home videos? The other videos seem to indicate no plane on the second tower. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4BLoj8fEpz0 https://archive.org/details/911noplane https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=07PdXzo4s8Y

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If you are convinced of the theory that the 9/11 planes were a holographic projection, then you are also convinced holographic technology can do such a thing and existed with that ability 20 years ago. What evidence do you have that holograms of that size, scale and in full color are possible now and also 20 years ago? How can a holographic projection block out light from other sources (such as the sun) and also cast shadows as if they are solid objects? I ask this because holograms seem to be very misunderstood by the masses who only have movies and TV as examples of what they are and can do. Can you give me some sources for real technology that can do this either today or 20 years ago?

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I'm not suggesting the people actually there saw the plane, only the people watching on the T.V. Even the ground crew say they only saw explosions. Find 1 video of the second plane that didn't come from the news. The home videos I'm seeing seem to indicate no plane.

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So what does this have to do with holograms? If it was all done by CGI video editing, then it has nothing at all to do with holograms.

As for home videos, back in 2001 people were not carrying around camcorders with them like they do smart phones today. Because of this, there was very little video available from anyone and some of the videos the (((MSM))) showed did come from home videos that they purchased or were granted use of. There wasn't enough time to get those videos and add CGI to them back then. It took a lot of time to render somewhat believable CGI since computers were a small fraction of the power of today.

To give you an idea of what kind of CGI was available back then, the video below is the work of two (((hollyweird))) FX people who used the technology of the time to add CGI effects to real film footage for their short film. Only the plane, the digital removal of the cars on the 405 and any rearview mirror shots were CGI in this short film. All the rest was real footage that got combined with some CGI elements. It took them months to do the CGI FX in the short 3 minute film given the technology of the time. It was possible but not practical 20 years ago. It's different today, but it's still not very realistic even with better technology.

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I had the same thoughts about having convincing CGI back then but now I'm not so sure. https://archive.org/details/911noplane https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=07PdXzo4s8Y The explosion itself didn't need CGI just the plane for a few seconds. There's maybe 5 different videos I've seen from the news showing the plane. For such a short clip I think it might actually be plausible.

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I saw it myself. Tupac and Freddie Mercury were standing on top of the plane performing. That's how I knew it was a hologram.

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"Ghost plane" was nuts, disappeared like a cartoon.

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Aluminum airplanes going 500mph cannot penetrate steel reinforced buildings. Period.

Holograms sounds sooooo unbelievable that most think it's stupid. John Lear (son of inventor of Lear jets) discusses in several videos how (((they))) pulled this off.

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What is it with this site trying to convince us that there was no second plane? The first tower strike forced hundreds if not thousands of cameras from all over the world to turn towards the towers. Does anyone really think any organization would risk using holograms in some coordinated attack? Let alone dialing in the Doppler effect needed for the sound of a jet crushing over south Manhattan? Got it, WTC 7 is sketchy and leaves the door open to controlled demolition. But going full retard and talking about holograms, in 2001 one is beyond moronic.

On the plus side anyone believing in it and posting self identifies how retarded they really are.

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I might be getting different theories mixed up but all I'm talking about is CGI on T.V. only. I asked a friend who was actually working there that day and said he never saw a plane. Listen to ground crews on the scene, they don't see the second plane only the explosions. https://archive.org/details/911noplane https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=07PdXzo4s8Y

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Being downtown NYC there were thousands that saw the plane hit. So I don't know what to tell you.

I just hope I'm being trolled on this site with people seriously believing that CGI planes were used on television or on location.

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Nah this came to me as a surprise today even after all the time researching back in the day. I always saw sketchy videos about CGI and no planes and just ignored until now. You can snap me out of it if you can find 1 home video showing the plane.

September Clues full documentary.

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you can see the plane at around 10:42, and then more clearly at around 10:49 between the buildings

The hologram theory is another one of those theories designed to make people who question things look crazy, like the flat earth theory.