`Did you know Peter wrote a Gospel too?` How would you know that's the word of God unless the Church told you? You wouldn't. Just saying something doesn't make it true. >By the way, quit trying to appeal using the Catholic church as a source. It doesn't work with me. I gave you plenty of links to look up the Catholic position with scripture citations and early church fathers, it's not my problem that you choose to ignore them. The Catholic Church gave you scripture. I don't know why that's so hard for you to understand. >You would have better luck if you addressed the statements of your pope on homosexual civil unions, or if you explained how indulgences aren't just a way for rich and powerful people to buy their way out of hell, or if you actually addressed the reading of the Greek for Matthew 16:16. Francis never make a doctrinal declaration binding on all Catholics that homosexual unions are to be accepted and pleasing to God. His personal errors are not binding on the Catholic faithful. Priests, bishops, religious, lay people all say stupid things all the time, that doesn't make it Catholic teaching or the teaching of the Church. Selling indulgences is Simony, the Church never officially taught that was acceptable. Luther's critique of this was about the only thing with merit since some corrupt bishops during the Renaissance were encouraging large donations for indulgences, which he saw as buying and selling. Indulgences are binding power of the keys given to Peter of the Church to remit punishment due to sin by the power of the Church. This is hard to understand for Protestant who don't believe in Purgatory. You can't understand indulgences if you don't understand what Purgatory is. >If you actually addressed the reading of the Greek for Matthew 16:16 I already gave you the links, you didn't bother to read them. All your objections are answered here: https://www.scripturecatholic.com/the-primacy-of-peter/ and https://www.scripturecatholic.com/qa-peter-rock/ >Declaring your corporate organization of salaried pontificators to be the grand poo-bahs of all things Holy and Christian doesn't fly with me. You have to use scripture, and actually understand it, in order to get anywhere with me. Catholic teaching is 2000 years old. 2000 years. Monks were hand-copying scripture for you for 1500 years until the printing press was invented. You think that they didn't know something that you do? Why do you think you're so special in this regard that you know better than not only 1500 years of Christians, but 2000? I don't know what part of the Catholic Church put scripture together and she alone has the authority to interpret it that you didn't get? This is very simply logic and history. My 7yr old daughter understands it, why can't you? Christ built a Church. You reject that Church's authority. It's that simple. I don't *have* to use scripture, I can destroy your argument without it. I don't debate scripture with Protestants because I reject your premise outright, which is that you have any authority to interpret it from the get-go, which you do not. I sent you the link to study the Catholic position from a scriptural perspective, but Catholics are not "Sola Scriptura" believers. We believe in scripture AND tradition. Which scripture affirms. Jesus Christ built the Catholic Church on St. Peter. You disagreeing with that interpretation doesn't change 2000 years worth of history whether you like it or not.