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I don't get it, they arent violent or anything. But people have such a negative view of the baptist church. It's weird

I don't get it, they arent violent or anything. But people have such a negative view of the baptist church. It's weird

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God established His church but Satan is in the church too. Have you read Revelation? Which of those 7 churches became the RCC? Did you read the Gospels? Do you recall the man who was demonically possessed the Jesus met in the synagogue?

No church is infallible. The important thing is that churches be accepting of criticism, constantly searching the scriptures (Bereanism), and being critical of themselves and their own understanding.

As for Catholics writing/translating the Bible, the KJV was the work of about 47 different scholars, including protestants and Catholics. They drew much of their work from William Tyndale and others, some of whom had been burned at the stake by the RCC for disagreeing with RCC doctrine.

As for Luther, any criticism of people for not adhering to all of his doctrines is silly. Luther was a man born into Catholicism who saw the rot and wrote his thesis. He could not be expected to be infallible any more than anyone else can be. He was a starting point for reform and the wider protestant movement, not some new grand authority.

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Read the early Church fathers, none of them believe what you are spouting. They taught the Catholic faith.

Heresy will always exist. That doesn't mean there isn't a true church, it's absurd to say that if you claim to believe scripture. You're essentially saying truth is whatever you say it is and there is no central authority for truth. That's patently false. God didn't leave us orphans. The gates of Hell cannot prevail against the Church (truth of doctrine and morals and grace) because it is the pillar of truth. Matt 16:18-19, 1 Tim 3:15. If you say that no Church teaches the fullness and purity of salvific doctrine then it's pointless to even be Christian. Christ cannot error. He built a Church and made a promise. This is why Protestantism is retarded, you don't accept sacred tradition. Which scripture commands you explicitly to accept. The canon of scripture itself is itself Catholic tradition, which you implicitly accept.

I know this is hard for Protestants to understand because you've never considered that you might be wrong, but it's reality and the truth.

Scripturecatholic.com

The Douay Rheims is a better translation than the KJV, not sure what English translations of the Bible have to do with what we're talking about.

Christ is the pillar of truth, the cornerstone. The church is not the pillar of truth. We are believers subservient to Christ. Christ is our High Priest, not some mortal man. Our connection to Christ is direct, not through intermediaries with grand titles and funny hats.

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St. Paul literally says the Church is the pillar and bulwark of truth, in scripture, which is the inerrant word of God, do you disagree with God?

1 Timothy 3:15

http://drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=61&ch=3&l=15-#x