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So my mom is really nice, but the college thing has always bugged me. From a very young age i learned that charism and selling a personality went way further than selling experience and shit. I noticed that people want to hear what they want to hear, and that sometimes you just have to roll with the punches. I also noticed a significant disconnect in the way HR handles background checks vs what you tell the hiring manager. As far as i could tell, you could tell the hiring manger anything, because the background check comes back as a pass/fail.

So my mom has been pushing me to get a degree, because she assumes my luck will eventually run out and ill be left jobless. To put this in perspective i was making 6 figures by the time i was 22, and went up from there. I think this is the stage where her brain has somewhat shorted and cant comprehend that gaming the system and using loopholes can net such positive results, so her default is for me to get a degree. But i get a degree, because the TV or whatever said to do it, and not because it serves any value. So now im at a loss on how to approach this one

So my mom is really nice, but the college thing has always bugged me. From a very young age i learned that charism and selling a personality went way further than selling experience and shit. I noticed that people want to hear what they want to hear, and that sometimes you just have to roll with the punches. I also noticed a significant disconnect in the way HR handles background checks vs what you tell the hiring manager. As far as i could tell, you could tell the hiring manger anything, because the background check comes back as a pass/fail. So my mom has been pushing me to get a degree, because she assumes my luck will eventually run out and ill be left jobless. To put this in perspective i was making 6 figures by the time i was 22, and went up from there. I think this is the stage where her brain has somewhat shorted and cant comprehend that gaming the system and using loopholes can net such positive results, so her default is for me to get a degree. But i get a degree, because the TV or whatever said to do it, and not because it serves any value. So now im at a loss on how to approach this one

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[–] • 0 pt

if you think you will have more upward mobility in what you do dont bother. if you are look at degrees its STEM which honestly if you dont have a passion for it dont waste your time or you could do trades. if you actually know how to game the system getting into a trade can bank you insane money, and its what i would advise anyone to do since its pretty damn hard to go into debt with an apprenticeship least no enough for it to matter

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Well her argument changed pretty fast. It used to be a STEM degree, now its any degree, now it just finish what i had originally started with my old degree. The goal post keeps changing, but beyond saying her son has a degree, or wants to work in government (hard no honestly), i dont see the advantage to having a degree, even in tech. Sure i may miss out on some jobs out there, but i make 135,000/yr at this point without one. I mean according to my mom everyone else is making more, but i find that really hard to believe

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A degree just opens more options. It doesn't guarantee you'll take advantage of those options. That's all. Stupid people get degrees all the time and can't/won't exercise those options, so it gives the idea of a degree a bad name. Basically, if you're already smart (and no matter what you think, 50% of you aren't), then a degree can give you more chances to go further. If you're not so smart a degree isn't going to do much for you.

The reason degrees got a reputation for advancing careers is because it used to be that people with higher IQs generally went to college and got degrees in things like physics, chemistry, medicine, biology, engineering, law, etc. Those people made good money, so people thought degree = money.

People always engage in post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacious reasoning because they cannot separate correlation from causation. They though if they could just get degrees to niggers and spics they'd all be engineers and make good money. What they proved was that it wasn't the degrees that were making whites successful. It was the IQ that was making them successful and the degrees just gave them the training necessary for their field of work.

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Sure i may miss out on some jobs out there, but i make 135,000/yr at this point without one.

Unless you want to live somewhere that $135k leaves you poor a degree is hardly going to get you more money and will cost you a lot when you add how much you have to pay minus the 135k a year you LOSE.

You're a big boy and you know the correct answer already.