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There aren't, MGTOW is gay. If you can't get laid, it's because you're trying. Do or do not, there is no try. All that shit is cope for the fact we are sexual beings.

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The majority of MGTOW are divorced, so getting laid isn't the issue. The issue is the government supporting militant feminism to the point of bankrupting and destroying men's lives.

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THIS.

All liberal policies are inherently contrary to nature, and family courts and feminism are no exception. Women have traditionally borne the risk of childbirth and mate selection. While men have borne the risk of hunting and resource acquisition. Now men bear 100% of the risk.

For example, a woman has birth control options, and if that fails abortion. She can also have the baby and get financial help willingly or unwillingly from whoever got her pregnant. If she had sex with a poor bloke, the gov will help her out. If she doesn't qualify for gov help, there are many resources to help women, shelters, etc.

But a man, if he has sex, he has no say in abortion, alimony, property rights, etc.

This puts men in a tough position, what can a man offer that a woman can't have without a man?

Women are breadwinners in over 40% of us households but are 90% of recipients of alimony and child support.

The courts are not in men's favor, and that makes sex far more inherently risky for men than it does women.

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It's a logical choice to stay away from bad women.

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Many of them TURN bad, after marriage and kids, then the (((courts))) destroy the hapless man.

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I subscribe to the Kellogg model of abstinence after 30. Honestly the way i see it, im white, Christian, and hated by everyone, so i may as well outcast myself from society. I don't want to impregnate a woman, or have kids. I don't mind helping others become more stable, but as far as i see it, not everyone needs a 4 kid family

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You never know who you'll run into, or when.

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I was in your situation some years ago. Discouraged and done with it. I went my own way, built a home, established a life, became a man.

Now I am looking for a woman to have babies with. I am in an excellent position. I thought I'd never want kids. But I am very good with kids and have a lot I can teach them. I know who I am and what I want at this stage in life. I never would have imagined it.

If you want to go woman free for a while, go out there and find what you want. Overcome some adversity. Have a stable platform for having hobbies, family, career.

You might reach a point where it feels right. For now just make yourself better physically, mentally, spiritually, and financially.

Same situation here, but stuck on the "built a home" part. I'm infuriated with the current state of the housing market and building material costs.

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'Getting laid' is not the Alpha and Omega of life, fren.

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Spreading your seed and your legacy is.

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Bullshit, that is societal/familial pressure. 60% of all men that ever lived never reproduced. So what?

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19 hour account first post what are some (((MGTOW))) resources

(((OP)))

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Ask a Jew why white people should not have kids Boom. You are now mgtow.

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Look into asceticism

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Self respect and a hobby.

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Alcoholism. Suicide. Homelessness.

You are not fulfilling your obligations to society so might as well become an actual degenerate

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your obligations to society

where the fuck is it written that any of us have 'obligations to society'??

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You reap the benefits of it. Clearly.

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I do? That's news to me. I am self-employed.

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Society isnt fulfilling its end of the bargain either, so i dont see why i have to be the higher person in a sea of degeneracy

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Pout in your room like a child then. Goodbye

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MTGOW = boomer incels in denial