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So my mother and my brother have talked my sister into taking the jab. Madness. She is perfectly healthy and this pandemic is made up. I am trying to convince her not to take it. I have found news articles on how infection rates in Israel and Iceland are increasing despite their vaccination rates being among the highest in the world. I also want to link to the interview with Kary Mullis talking about the misuse of PCR test, how they cannot be use to diagnose illness. In addition to Robert Malone and Michael Yeadon advising against the vaccines. Does anyone have any other good suggestions?

I feel like crap. Everyone I know is lining up for this shot and I can't help thinking that this is the greatest medical disaster of all time. I don't understand how everyone could be so naive.

Update: Talked to my sister and she had already cancelled her vaccine date. She is not entirely sold either way, but at least I have more time to try to convince her. Unfortunately we live far appart so I can't see her in person but she seems willing to listen to me. I think what worked best on her was the uncertainty regarding the vaccine's effect on fertillity. I told her about thalidomide and diethylstilbestrol and I think that scared her. Still working on a write up, not sure if I will post it her as I use a lot of facts from my own country and I'd rather not be doxxed.

Thank you all so very much. You all give me hope and make me very proud!

So my mother and my brother have talked my sister into taking the jab. Madness. She is perfectly healthy and this pandemic is made up. I am trying to convince her not to take it. I have found news articles on how infection rates in Israel and Iceland are increasing despite their vaccination rates being among the highest in the world. I also want to link to the interview with Kary Mullis talking about the misuse of PCR test, how they cannot be use to diagnose illness. In addition to Robert Malone and Michael Yeadon advising against the vaccines. Does anyone have any other good suggestions? I feel like crap. Everyone I know is lining up for this shot and I can't help thinking that this is the greatest medical disaster of all time. I don't understand how everyone could be so naive. Update: Talked to my sister and she had already cancelled her vaccine date. She is not entirely sold either way, but at least I have more time to try to convince her. Unfortunately we live far appart so I can't see her in person but she seems willing to listen to me. I think what worked best on her was the uncertainty regarding the vaccine's effect on fertillity. I told her about thalidomide and diethylstilbestrol and I think that scared her. Still working on a write up, not sure if I will post it her as I use a lot of facts from my own country and I'd rather not be doxxed. Thank you all so very much. You all give me hope and make me very proud!

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[–] [Sticky] 38 pts

Pharma Fined 14 Billion Dollars in 5 Years https://projects.propublica.org/graphics/bigpharma

“From 1991 through 2015, a total of 373 settlements were reached between the federal and state governments and pharmaceutical manufacturers, for a total of $35.7 billion. Of these, 140 were federal settlements, for $31.9 billion, and 233 were state settlements, for $3.8 billion.” https://www.citizen.org/wp-content/uploads/migration/2311.pdf

Purdue OxyContin settlement would rank among largest in pharma history https://www.reuters.com/article/us-purdue-pharma-settlement-history-fact/purdue-oxycontin-settlement-would-rank-among-largest-in-pharma-history-idUSKCN1VW2KL

Opioid Scandal Haunts Drug Companies As They Respond To Pandemic https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/08/10/900854967/opioid-scandal-haunts-drug-companies-as-they-respond-to-pandemic

Iraq war victims allege pharmaceutical companies' bribery led to U.S. troop deaths https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/10/17/iraq-war-victims-allege-pharmaceutical-companies-bribery-led-u-s-troop-deaths/771290001/

AstraZeneca

Drug Giant AstraZeneca to Pay $520 Million to Settle Fraud Case https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Health/astrazeneca-pay-520-million-illegally-marketing-seroquel-schizophrenia/story?id=10488647

AstraZeneca takes $6m hit after 'faking conferences' to bribe doctors https://www.standard.co.uk/business/astrazeneca-takes-6m-hit-after-faking-conferences-to-bribe-doctors-a3333166.html

Johnson & Johnson

Court Documents: Johnson & Johnson Was ‘Kingpin’ In Opioid Epidemic And Targeted Children, Elderly With Marketing https://khn.org/morning-breakout/court-documents-johnson-johnson-was-kingpin-in-opioid-epidemic-and-targeted-children-elderly-with-marketing/

Johnson & Johnson to pay $2.2 billion to end U.S. drug probes https://www.reuters.com/article/us-jnj-settlement/johnson-johnson-said-to-pay-2-2-billion-to-end-u-s-marketing-probes-idUSBRE9A30MM20131104

”…the company (J&J) knew there was asbestos in products aimed at mothers and babies, knew of the potential harm and “misrepresented the safety of these products for decades.” https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/johnson-johnson-asks-high-court-void-2b-talc-77997067

$750 million: Johnson & Johnson ordered to pay in baby powder case https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/national/750-million-johnson-johnson-ordered-pay-baby-powder-case/UXrlMgzhabcri6eym3bsGP/

Johnson & Johnson to pay $572m for fueling Oklahoma opioid crisis, judge rules https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/26/johnson-and-johnson-opioid-crisis-ruling-responsibility-oklahoma-latest

Johnson & Johnson settles Ohio lawsuits to avoid federal trial https://www.reuters.com/article/us-johnson-johnson-opioid-ohio-idUSKBN1WH00F

J&J unit to pay $360 million to U.S. to resolve charity kickback probe https://www.reuters.com/article/us-johnson-johnson-settlement-idUSKBN1O51XB

Pfizer

Pfizer accuses Johnson & Johnson of 'anticompetitive practices' in lawsuit https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2017/09/20/pfizer-accuses-johnson-johnson-anticompetitive-practices-lawsuit/684374001/

Pfizer to pay $2.3 billion, agrees to criminal plea https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pfizer-settlement-sb-idUSTRE5813XB20090903

Nigeria sues Pfizer for $7bn over 'illegal' tests on children https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/jun/05/health.healthandwellbeing1

“At Pfizer I was expected to increase profits at all costs, even when sales meant endangering lives.” https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pfizer-whistleblower-idUSN021592920090903

Pfizer settles foreign bribery case with U.S. government https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pfizer-settlement-idUSBRE8760WM20120807

Pfizer in $486 million settlement of Celebrex, Bextra litigation https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pfizer-lawsuit-idUSKCN10D1D8

Pfizer has a policy against ghostwriters, but when it acquired Parke and its Neurontin blockbuster it apparently bought an enthusiastic ghostwriting shop within it.”https://www.cbsnews.com/news/inside-pfizers-ghostwriting-shop-friendly-drug-studies-for-just-1000/#app

Pfizer to Pay $430 Million Fine over Illegal Marketing https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1895708

Pfizer "Bribe" Scandal in Philippines Heats Up; Company Offered Posters to the President https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pfizer-bribe-scandal-in-philippines-heats-up-company-offered-posters-to-the-president/

GlaxoSmithKline

GlaxoSmithKline settles healthcare fraud case for $3 billion https://www.reuters.com/article/us-glaxo-settlement-idUSBRE8610S720120702

Glaxo given 'serious' warning on false vaccine information https://www.theguardian.com/business/2004/jul/14/health.medicineandhealth

Glaxo to pay $750 million in adulterated drugs case https://www.reuters.com/article/us-glaxosmithkline-settlement/glaxo-to-pay-750-million-in-adulterated-drugs-case-idUSTRE69P4GH20101027

Evidence grows for narcolepsy link to GSK swine flu shot https://www.reuters.com/article/us-narcolepsy-vaccine-pandemrix-idUSBRE90L07H20130122 “There’s no doubt in my mind whatsoever that Pandemrix increased the occurrence of narcolepsy onset in children in some countries - and probably in most countries,” says Mignot, a specialist in the sleep disorder at Stanford University in the United States.

UK study strengthens link between GSK flu shot and narcolepsy https://www.reuters.com/article/us-flu-gsk-narcolepsy-britain-idUSBRE90U0JW20130131

Chinese police charge British former head of GSK in China with bribery https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-glaxosmithkline/chinese-police-charge-british-former-head-of-gsk-in-china-with-bribery-idUSBREA4D03720140514

Sex video new twist in GSK China bribery scandal https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-gsk-china-idUKKBN0F40YR20140630

Merck

Merck settles Vioxx claims for $4.85 billion https://www.reuters.com/article/us-merck-settlement/merck-settles-vioxx-claims-for-4-85-bln-idUSWNAS178420071109

Merck accused of stonewalling in mumps vaccine antitrust lawsuit https://www.reuters.com/article/health-vaccine-idUSL1N0YQ0W820150604

Former Merck Scientists Sue Merck Alleging MMR Vaccine Efficacy Fraud https://ahrp.org/former-merck-scientists-sue-merck-alleging-mmr-vaccine-efficacy-fraud/

Merck Created Hit List to "Destroy," "Neutralize" or "Discredit" Dissenting Doctors https://www.cbsnews.com/news/merck-created-hit-list-to-destroy-neutralize-or-discredit-dissenting-doctors/

New Merck Allegations: A Fake Journal; Ghostwritten Studies; Vioxx Pop Songs; PR Execs Harass Reporters https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-merck-allegations-a-fake-journal-ghostwritten-studies-vioxx-pop-songs-pr-execs-harass-reporters/

Gardasil Researcher Speaks Out https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gardasil-researcher-speaks-out/

New Worries About Gardasil Safety https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-worries-about-gardasil-safety/

HPV vaccine is neither safe nor effective https://www.baltimoresun.com/opinion/readers-respond/bs-ed-vaccine-letter-20150812-story.html

U.S. court pays $6 million to Gardasil victims https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/31/us-court-pays-6-million-gardasil-victims/

Merck to pay $688 million to settle Enhance lawsuits https://www.reuters.com/article/us-merck-settlements-idUSBRE91D0R520130214

Is Merck's Singulair Patent a Fraud? Suit Lays Out Timeline of Omissions https://www.cbsnews.com/news/is-mercks-singulair-patent-a-fraud-suit-lays-out-timeline-of-omissions/ “Merck deliberately engaged in inequitable and fraudulent conduct in its statements and submissions to the PTO.”

U.S. court upholds dismissal of $200 million Merck verdict against Gilead https://www.reuters.com/article/us-merck-gilead-ruling/us-court-upholds-dismissal-of-200-million-merck-verdict-against-gilead-idUSKBN1HW24U “The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit upheld a June 2016 ruling that the two Merck patents, which cover methods of treating Hepatitis C, were unenforceable because of a pattern of misconduct by the company, including lying under oath by one of its in-house lawyers.”

Rampant Criminality

How authorities say drugmaker paid off doctors, lied to insurance companies to push potentially lethal fentanyl-based drug https://abcnews.go.com/Business/authorities-drugmaker-paid-off-doctors-lied-insurance-companies/story?id=61488372

Teva settles multibillion-dollar drug kickback case ahead of trial https://www.reuters.com/article/health-teva/teva-settles-multibillion-dollar-drug-kickback-case-ahead-of-trial-idUSL2N25B1NZ

Abbott to pay $1.6 billion for Depakote marketing https://www.reuters.com/article/us-abbott-settlement-idUSBRE8460UK20120507

Eli Lilly to pay $1.42 bln to resolve Zyprexa probes https://www.reuters.com/article/elililly-idUSBNG34185720090115

Cancer drug probe nets $875 million settlement https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2001-10-04-0110040343-story.html

Court approves Amgen's $762 million payment in drug case https://www.reuters.com/article/us-amgen-plea-marketing-idUSBRE8BI1BT20121219

Allergan signs $750 million settlement with purchasers of Alzheimer's drug Namenda https://www.reuters.com/article/us-allergan-namenda-settlement/allergan-signs-750-million-settlement-with-purchasers-of-alzheimers-drug-namenda-idUSKBN1YS1C4

AIDS drug maker settles kickback charges for $704 million http://www.nbcnews.com/id/9728522/ns/business-corporate_scandals/t/aids-drug-maker-settles-kickback-charges/

California lawsuit accuses Bristol-Myers Squibb of fraud, kickbacks https://www.latimes.com/health/la-xpm-2011-mar-19-la-fi-drug-kickbacks-20110319-story.html

Ex-pharma CEO pleads guilty to kickbacks to doctors for opioid prescriptions https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/01/09/ex-pharma-ceo-pleads-guilty-to-kickbacks-to-doctors-for-opioid-prescriptions/

U.S. sues Novartis, alleging kickbacks to pharmacies https://www.reuters.com/article/us-novartis-fraud-lawsuit-idUSBRE93M1C920130424

Baxter admits flu product contained live bird flu virus https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/baxter-admits-flu-product-contained-live-bird-flu-virus-1.374503

Dengue vaccine fiasco leads to criminal charges for researcher in the Philippines https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/04/dengue-vaccine-fiasco-leads-criminal-charges-researcher-philippines

Charity to pay $4 million to resolve U.S. pharma kickback probe https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-healthcare-charities-settlement-idUSKBN1XU2MY

New York doctor convicted of taking kickbacks from opioid maker Insys https://www.reuters.com/article/us-insys-opioids-new-york-idUSKBN1Y92Q3

Ex-pharma CEO pleads guilty to kickbacks to doctors for opioid prescriptions https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/01/09/ex-pharma-ceo-pleads-guilty-to-kickbacks-to-doctors-for-opioid-prescriptions/

Cashing in on dementia patients: drugmaker to pay $116 million in fraud settlement https://kfor.com/2019/09/26/cashing-in-on-dementia-patients-drugmaker-to-pay-116-million-in-fraud-settlement/

Sanofi Pays $25 Million to Settle Bribery Charges https://www.wsj.com/articles/sanofi-pays-25-million-to-settle-bribery-charges-1536081510

Wyeth loses Prempro trial, to pay $1.5 million https://www.reuters.com/article/us-wyeth-prempro-verdict-idUSN2929344620070129 “Wyeth protected their bottom dollar instead of protecting the patients,” Zoe Littlepage, attorney for plaintiff Mary Daniel, said in a statement.”

Zantac and other heartburn drugs recalled over possible cancer link https://www.cbsnews.com/news/zantac-recall-heartburn-drugs-possible-cancer-link/

[–] 3 pts

Damn fine job, thank you. You're doing the Lord's work.

[–] 2 pts

OP blinked, and LIKE A TIGER HE POUNCED!!!

[–] 1 pt

He deserves a big brain or librarian icon next to his pseudonym.

[–] 2 pts

That comment alone deserves its own post.

Let me know if you want to post it and I'll global sticky it.

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[–] [deleted] 12 pts

She's a woman. You'll never convince her with facts and logic. Show her some videos of vax victims with Bell's palsy. Women are terrified of being disfigured.

[–] 2 pts

This is the correct answer.

[–] 8 pts

1st. Your mother and brother are shit. They are the problem. The brainwashed useful idiots. Berate them constantly in front of your sister, behind their back or publicly. Reiterate news of death, injury, infection on case by case news article.

2nd. Show your sister videos of women documenting their own injuries. Crying women, the more tears the better.

3rd. Tell your sister shes a weak, mindless retard for giving priority to her mother and brothers "feelings" over risks to her own health. Repeat 1-3 3x per day. Firmly and confidently. You love her. They dont. They just want her to make the same stupid mistake they did.

[–] 7 pts

Women are breaking out in hives so bad their face and arms are scarred for life. Dermatologists are seeing a lot of it

[–] 5 pts (edited )

Ask her to look at the website that tracks vaxx deaths and injuries, that shows the picture of each victim. The Covid Blog. https://thecovidblog.com/

[–] 5 pts

Prostrate yourself. Go to her, dont scream, dont be mad, humble yourself and BEG her if you really do care to stop it.

You need to show an emotional appeal, bring up fond memories you share, ask her to remember them and ask her to not take it for your sake.

[–] 8 pts

Gay. Never beg a woman for anything, she will never respect that.

Women only understand violence and social shaming. Short of beating her just inform her she will be excommunicated and abandoned if she doesn't fall in line.

I have bad news though, she prob already decided to get it and just subconsciously wants OP to humiliate himself

[–] [deleted] 4 pts (edited )

That threat might work if it was backed up by everyone in their family, friends, etc. Probably the one thing that terrifies women, but the brother alone, nah.

Contrarily, he is the one at risk of being ostracized, bringing his ability to influence her (social standing) even lower.

"One cannot reason someone out of a position they did not adopt reasonably", something to that effect. These rubes are in for a rude awakening.

His sister is toast and there's not a whole lot he can do about it, that's about 90% assured at this point

The problem with most of these idiots is that they've never been fucked in the ass, they've lived a privileged, candy ass lifestyle. That's all about to change.

Once they've lost everything and everyone they've ever cared about, will they finally dig deep and find the will to fight back? Probably not, buncha worthless queers. lol

[–] 2 pts

And you will wonder why you are alone at the end of the long winter nights.

[–] 1 pt

Cope harder, simp

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[–] 3 pts

Begging to women from a man is like a homeless guy berating you into giving him money. If you are lucky they might begrudgingly give in but is extremely offputting and makes them dislike you.

[–] 2 pts

"Whatwomenwant"

KEK

This is not some bar slut he is trying to fuck, this is someone he cares about and has known him as family for years. The emotional impact of humbling yourself is not something to be ignored.

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Just because he's been married to her does not mean her feminine firmware is removed. I'm not saying it won't work. I'm saying it's a shitty way to get the result you want.

[–] 2 pts

Women do not respect men who do this. It will have the opposite effect.

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A guy is distressed and asking for options to save his family member, I proposed making an emotional appeal and all the tards come out.

Do you get your advice on women from self proclaimed failures with women? Perhaps you should look at what White Fathers and White Mothers throughout history have had to say about it.

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I don't really look for advice on women, seeing as I'm a straight one.

[–] 5 pts

Just ask her to wait as long as possible. What if she's never able to have children, or they're all affected in some way. The only information on how it's going to affect pregnancy or children is all bad.

Wait for more information. Just wait until you can't anymore.

[–] 3 pts

Show her

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If they need to be convinced to not be culled... they need to be culled.

[–] 3 pts

She is my sister. What is wrong with you?

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Can't bring your sister into a conversation on a site like this and expect not to have some crazy responses. Look, you can educate her all you like, but if she won't listen, Darwin will have to do his job. It's like a tattoo, but instead of having some gay ass permanent mark on you, you roll the dice and get a nice little prize in the end that'll make you wish you were dead. What are her reasons for wanting to take it in the first place?

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in what world is a post devoid of pathos "crazy"? you are using pathos yourself to create a falsehood.

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What's wrong with your sister more like ?? ...

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She is easily influenced by people who should be protecting her and doesn't realise that society wants to harm her. But she is still my sister.

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She failed the intelligence test, we got over it, you should too.

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you can convince her today, but tomorrow they will tighten the screws, you can convince her tomorrow, but the screws will get tighter. unfortunately it will come down to whether they value socializing and (((freedom))) vs self autonomy. most people have already accepted the govt dictating things for them in other areas. Shits kicking off hard and fast though, none of us have ever lived through something like this, something so global and connected. There is no backup country we can flee to as refugees, there is no bastion of white strength left. New Zealand, South Africa, Australia, UK, Germany, France, America, Canada. All of these countries are pretty fucked, the group with the best chance at turning this around is America, but they have shown little resistance and allowed the most obvious election theft in recent memory to take place.

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Does she want to have kids? It’s too early to know if it causes increased infertility so if she does tell her the best advice from any fertility clinic is to wait.

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