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I think our ego (the self we grow through our daily experiences) dies, and is no more. But our core remains and is reborn, and that we are indeed sentient after death. There are just too many things that point to this fact. But i am curious to discuss the point with those that care to engage.

Disclosure: i am not a religious faggot.

I think our ego (the self we grow through our daily experiences) dies, and is no more. But our core remains and is reborn, and that we are indeed sentient after death. There are just too many things that point to this fact. But i am curious to discuss the point with those that care to engage. Disclosure: i am not a religious faggot.

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Reincarnation makes more sense than burning in hell for eternity.

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Keep coming back until you get it right. This is hell, and we are all trying to earn our way to heaven.

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Well this is surprisingly accurate...

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You best start believin' in the afterlife.

You're in one.

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After life, comes death.

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Jesus loves you so much that he's willing to send you to a lake of fire forever if you don't love him back. Sounds a little psychotic to me.

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This world is Satan's

Any reasonable reflection of the world concludes that great evil is in ascendant.

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Word.

FUCK organized religion.

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Reincarnation makes sense until you go back to the first soul (?). What was its incarnation based on? Was it born/created/spawned/evolved into some sort of perfect balance?

It's like karma. Sounds nice until you just scratch a bit.

What doesn't make sense about "burning in hell for eternity," given all of the other foundational beliefs associated with it? If there is a holy Creator, then you have definitely given "Him" the finger for your entire life. You have no desire to life His way, so ...

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Well, in my eye, we have lived literally millions upon millions of lives, i dont really have a full understanding of it, except that humanity is ANCIENT.

The Most High Uncreated God, has indeed given us free will. And youre right, in my current incarnation ive unwittingly given Him the "finger" many times.. Whats insane to ponder is that he still loves even the sickes jew. Understanding Him is humanity's purpose..

But we lost our way so bad its beyond sad :)

Were coming home tho as in, back to nature. The Devils that be lay the geoundwork for this.

edit i believe there were a first man and woman. But i also believe we are like an amoeba compared to them. And in effect the arguement of "hurr durr inbreeding" would fall short of our lack of understanding.

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You still didn't address the fundamental question: with some sort of meaningful quantification or other definition, how "were" the first man and woman? Were they blessed? Cursed? Purely neutral?

What was their birth based on?

The universe isn't millions upon millions of generations old. The Uncreated has told us how it went down, that we are destined to die ONCE, and then [face] judgement...

You really are lost.

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Don't be so lazy! Can you formulate a thought/argument rather than sending me an hour+ of videos (including a lame re-wording of the hymn Rock of Ages)?

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Not if you've lived my life.

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Probably missed your point. But youre probably hinting at a temendous amount of grief that youve been forced through. And could it not possibly be that it is something youre supposed to learn from it? Are you stronger then you were?

Youre still here.. So, joy is coming!

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But Buddhism has reincarnation and hell.....but the Buddhist hell seems.......mild compared to any judeo version of hell.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naraka_(Buddhism)

2 trillion years in a frozen puss ball.

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I believe I've lived past lives and I believe I do have an old soul.

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Why do you believe this, out of interest?

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It's hard to explain but I think it has more to do with my belief in Faith and Spirituality. I believe in a Spiritual Connection and us being Human we all have Souls and I'm sure others have had feelings of deja vu or dreams with premonitions.

I had an older roommate Die and be declared dead at the hospital by several Doctors and when I received the texts from friends and family informing me he had died I fell asleep for about 15 minutes. In my sleep I dreamed in that 15 minutes and spoke to my dead roommate in the stairs as I was walking up to his room because we lived in a townhouse and he lived up stairs. I told him that he had been pronounced dead and he told me he didn't die but their was a problem around his back shoulder and ribs but it's better now. When I woke up I received a text about 20 minutes later saying he wasn't dead after all after plenty of Doctors had pronounced him dead.

Of course I have many other examples of not only what I believe to be only possible due to miracles. I used to like to go to Church when I was younger even on Wednesdays but after growing up I've learned how flawed churches and even religions are. I even read Sylvia Brown's Spirit Guide to the Other Side when I was younger. While she's nuttier than squirrel turds something opened inside my sub conscious and I had become more spiritually aware or awakened. I'm not a medium or psychic but their have also been times where I knew things I didn't even know I knew and even felt things were going to happen before they'd happened.

I could literally go on and on but for the most part it's because of my belief system and Faith. Nobody could tell me this is the end all be all... I've personally have had too many experiences at least in my opinion where, well Faith is a very powerful thing and there's definitely something bigger out there and we all play a part.

With all that being said when I do go I'm not going to be physically roaming this earth anymore but my spirit may be floating around here or the cosmos or I might even come back in utero, who knows... but nobody can convince me it ends at death. It's just one of those things that'll remain unexplainable but I have an old soul and have lived plenty of past lives before so with all that being said it's just affirmed and known in my mind as fact that God exists as well as Souls. Not my first go round and this Life won't be my last. It really is hard to explain but such a fascinating subject that'll always have it's skepticism and criticism but I'm steadfast in my belief. Gott mit uns and Deus Vult.

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read Embraced by the Light.

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It just makes sense.

Back when i was younger I was asked the question; "who observes the observer"

Took me a good year of pondering it before it dawned on me (something ive always known) that i observer my thoughts, and one layer deeper, i observe my emotions. Which i gather is what spawns my thoughts..

So what am i? I can control this hand. I call it MY body.. So i am not it..

That together with doing a ton of research, one small drop in that lake was reading about children talking about past lives.. Awesome shit, and very real.

Then i read the ringing cedars of russia, and everything clicked.

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Haha good man. I am willing to bet this holds true for many faggots roaming poal.

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Based on what alleged objective truth?

Or is this just what you 'feel,' or maybe what cognitive bias desires.

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Based on logic.

How many stories of patients recalling what doctors said over their "pronounced dead" bodies, or children talking about past lives do you need to hear before you go; "hum".

Yeah, i FEEL (oh so scary word. Ugh, emotion amirite?) truth when presented. Because these past 20 years of my adult life, ive been searching, and as the saying goes.. I have found.

And truth, i think, has to be subjective.

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I hear you, what I have found is the gospel, it became real to me and changed my life back in 1979, and I'm not putting down feelings, I have to say I had plenty of them (affections and love) when I was converted, way back then.

My subjective life, or how to live it, when I was saved, lined up with the objective word of God, and that's what's kept me going now for so long a time.

If you've 'found,' and it's not the gospel of Christ, maybe consider searching a bit more?

I hear you about the out of body stuff, I doubt most of it (dreams or whatever, most of them don't line up with the objective truth...with your soul, and eternity, you want to make absolutely sure.

Two things about eternity that are so solemn, it is unchangeable, and it is forever.

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Have you read the Thomas evangelium? :)

I love Jesus Christ.

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Look into Dr. Ian Stevenson and his research on reincarnation. If there is any way to even proof reincarnation is real, he did it.

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Ah thanks had lost his name :)

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Ian Stevenson. Look him up.

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You sound like a ‘religious faggot’ to use your own term.

“Our core remains and is reborn, and that we are indeed sentient after death.” “There are just too many things that point to this FACT.”

Ok, so then let’s see the proof that we remain the same at “the core” whatever the hell that means (the torso?)

Also, you claim we are reborn? Where? After how long? As a human? Would love the “many things” that point to this “fact”

You sound like you were raised in religion and then bucked that programming only to repackage the programming into your own version of spirit realm hoodoo voodoo.

But I’m not trying to shit on you, more just taking the piss and truly curious what these “facts” are that price this particular belief of yours.

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How can inquiry be misconstrued as talking shit. This is a womans logic :)

The soul is the core, whats the soul tho, right? Short answer; a particle of God reaiding within each and everyone of us. That voice in the back of your head whispering to you in every single decision I take. My ego wants to get drunk, the soul reminds me how incredibly dumb that is, seeing as the last few months ive been living the life of an alcoholic, and its breaking my body, slowly but surely.

Now i have free will, i can say fuck it. Or i can keep working out and staying sober (havent been this happy in a long time, listening to the light works out alright).

My mom was not religious. Her parents super religious, ao i was dragged to church. And by all that is Good i swear i hated it. Nice house, boring as school. I was given the privilege of chosing not to go, and i chose not to. It didnt make sense to walk out of nature and listen to an old man read thousands of years old nonsensical scriptures anyways.

Facts pointing to it, i should have called it "my understanding is" but to me they remain facts...

What is astral travel, lucid dreaming. Literally countless witnesses of healing of deadly diseases by an "old man" (OR WHAMEN) with warm hands..

stories of past lives (regression). People trained in the ways of direct energy transfer on video these days making great heat feom their hands, enough to start a fire; is it all bullshit and hearsay?

believe it or not i know its easy to fake, but i have a very citical mind, and i do not trust any source i can not back up atleast 3 times.

In my eyes, we know NOTHING of the spiritual realm, compared to eons past.

Ever hear witch hunting? You think its all bullshit, or the Devil in robes trying to stomp something out?

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Stop believing fairytales written by the first merchants.

We get One life as far as we know. Get busy living it to the fullest and stop wasting time convincing yourself that you won’t be dead and gone when it’s over.

Do you remember before you were conceived? Before you were born? Nope.

When we die, the people close to us deal woth the body, say their peace and move on. Just like the rest of the world. Go walk in a veteran cemetery and look down at the headstones. People dead from watching back. 1890s dead soldier is now walking around with an iPhone? Come the duck in y’all don’t really believe this shit right?

I get the value of religion. I get the value of submitting to something greater than yourself. But this religion shit is all a grift. All knowing gods that need money always.

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1) your understanding of the true christian faith is laughable, I shall try to be kind in my explanations but you are making it hard

2) christianity is literally a giant redpill on the kikes, if you don't know that then this simply confirms your lack of understanding about it...name one good reason kikes would "create"....oh wait...they don't create, they only twist and manipulate that which is already created...that should be your first hint.

3) There is literal scientific proof of an afterlife you people are just too afraid to dig on it...let's start with some idea's to warm you to it.

fact 1 - all cosmic background radiation eminates outwards from a central point, that central point being earth...meaning our planet just "happens" to be on the very same spot in space that our universe began from.

fact 2 - existence of people who use the name of "god" to grift people does not prove god does not exist...it proves people will use anything to cheat others, regardless of what the "thing" is, so long as it's something other people care about it can be a tool of manipulation, that's it, your conclusion is a biased one on that score and not a rational conclusion

fact 3 - there have been plenty of cases where people DO in fact, remember past lives, these have been documented, again, there are obviously going to be fakes in there, but as i stated in fact 2, that's true of anything (look at art, counterfeiting art wouldn't exist if the art itself had no monetary value).

fact 4 - the genetic history of the adamic people has been wildly manipulated (aka white people)....for example, egyptian pharos were white people, then there's the issue of tartaria and atlantis being non mythos and physically real with evidence supporting their existence.

fact 5 - here is one I find is stronger then the rest I have provided, the rest are more of a "we have been lied to for so long how would you even fucking know at this point what is "possible" when our foundational knowledge is so filled with lies". Fact 5 deals with the fact that the Bible speaks of nephilim, aka, motherfucking giants

Now...dig on the smithsonian, they covered up giant bone discoveries for more then 100 years...they had factual, real, hard evidence of 15-20foot tall motherfuckers, and those were speculated to be "children" for the race.

Physical proof of the "angels mating with the daughters of men" from the bible.

You don't get the value of religion, you really don't...because it's not a grift, it's legitimately real. You just can't deal with the fact it's real, it's ok, I had trouble with it at first as well

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Wow, Just Wow!

But no links to pictures, articles or even references to a bible.

Facts expect proof!

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no...lazy useless people who refuse to educate themselves demand instant gratification, you want to learn without digging yourself and spending any time, that's not how this works son.

I'll do one for you, just to prove what I'm saying are not the ravings of some nutjob

https://www.gaia.com/article/this-conspiracy-claims-the-smithsonian-destroys-giant-skeletons

here's an attempt to debunk the "conspiracy" to show you the counter argument

As far as sources proving, there are many and I don't want to precondition you to any one source, So I will give you the starting point and from there you can travel on the way yourself

The lost city of Giants, Petra, has doorways in buildings that are clearly made for creatures much bigger then ourselves. During a time where such works were supposed to be impossible based on our current "tech" development

https://archaeology-world.com/the-mystery-behind-the-18-giant-skeletons-found-in-the-usa/

^ a source that is "pro" theory, discussing evidence, plenty of videos on bitchute about this subject as well

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God is real, Jesus was real, all the other wisemen of old were real.

Religion is a scam, like a pre written code of conduct to get on his goodside. As long as you bow your head to the priests..

Everything you wrote i agree with, xcept that religion is real (as in true way of communing with our Grand Creator)

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"real"

a subjective term really lol...if you mean organized religion with the priests and all that yea that shit is fake and gay but there is an underlying cache of information that we have yet to access so we can't actually say if religion is "shit" as a concept just yet, too many variables still in play, for example the firmament, is that an actual "dome"...or a metaphorical representation of some force keeping us on this planet? alien tech? van allen radiation belt?

far too much fake and gayness around "space" in general for me to not think it has something to do with the nature of religion, that's literally why they created the heliocentric model in the first place, to discredit the idea that we are a created people.

I just want special access to classified information so we don't have to fucking "guess" at this shit and could just read what the truth it removed from speculation

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I appreciate your approach. At least you make an attempt at an argument. I think that if we explored the topic you’d have to really close that gap you have thats resting heavily in faith and assumptions. Maybe we’ve been lied to from before the start we even know of but that’s quite a convenient argument to make considering that the burden of proof is on the believer, aka you in this conversation.

I won’t dispute or go back and forth over all these points but I will say that if you were ever sitting across from me I’d be very open and eager to discuss all these topics.

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What's with the "666"? Do you use that number in your name because it randomly came to you? Or do you have a particular religious affiliation?

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The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing people that he didnt exist.

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It’s mostly a lark.

I know my name will bother the gop/right wing elephant team and the blue lives people and the 666 was for the pearl clutching Christians.

I’m not trying to represent myself through my poal username.

My backup is blackpowerwhitepowder and the alt for future is a remix of that one. Bonus if you can guess it.

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I dont think 666 is inherintly evil, everything is more then it seems.

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Do you remember before you were conceived? Before you were born? Nope.

Of course not because those things you call memories are actually chemical and electrical signals that physically exist in your brain. So how could they exist before the brain does?

there is a difference between the body and the soul or life force or whatever term one wishes to use.

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Ok then, define the body, and then define the soul. Then please explain to me how they differ?

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You are saying the body and the soul are the same thing?

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This personality this life has carved into me, does indeed have ONE life. Am i only my ego tho?

Ive heard stories about kids remembering the womb.

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i've always believe there is only one soul so we commit the greatest calmity upon ourselves. creates a perfect karmic loop

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The one soul that fragmented into seemingly infinite other souls.

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Theres 8kun fringe board which is all about this kinda spiritual stuff, have fun! I believe in telekinesis and the oneness of all and stuff like that but haven't been practicing much.

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I don't know; but I suspect it is similar to video games. Throw a quarter in, get a body, play the game, die, repeat, don't repeat... But who the hell knows.

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Dude, throw a coin and become a witcher, i would. No i wouldnt. That fuck is BROKEN!

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Maybe you could... Maybe with the "invention" of the Witcher game/story coming after you were born, your next life you could. Maybe, on the other hand, this is the only game and we repeat it over and over again like in Skyrim, choosing a different class or play style to learn/experience new things. Could also be that we are just sacks of meat with enough brain power to speculate but not enough to actually know the truth...

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Truth has been (((hidden))) lets not mince words.

And games are fun, they are somewhat, like the witcher, a reflection of eons past. We definitely had monsters roaming the lands way back when... Still do, if 4chan stories are to be trusted :)

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Read "Atlantis, Edda und Bibel" easy to get a free pdf in English. It may help with understanding how sacred texts have been manipulate and how other religions innertwine. I also suggest reading religious books from all of the bigger religions, and the nag hammadi texts. Even reading some philosophy will help.

Everything is related; everything has been perverted. Everything we have been taught are lies. It's up to you see the truth.

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