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I work for a government agency, and they are also paying for me to go to college full time. Both the Gov and the school require vaccinations… I don’t know what the fuck to do.

Either I take the vax and risk death, or I fake it and risk prison. I will lose everything I have if I get fired or quit… my house, car, everything. There is no “just quit bro” option.

I’ve read the J&J jab is not based on this horrible RNA thing I keep hearing about, does that mean it’s safer? I’m seriously considering getting it, as faking a card to the government seems nigh impossible since almost every state has a registry.

I was homeless recently… maybe I could claim I got it at a shelter and they didn’t have a system to put it in?

I work for a government agency, and they are also paying for me to go to college full time. Both the Gov and the school require vaccinations… I don’t know what the fuck to do. Either I take the vax and risk death, or I fake it and risk prison. I will lose everything I have if I get fired or quit… my house, car, everything. There is no “just quit bro” option. I’ve read the J&J jab is not based on this horrible RNA thing I keep hearing about, does that mean it’s safer? I’m seriously considering getting it, as faking a card to the government seems nigh impossible since almost every state has a registry. I was homeless recently… maybe I could claim I got it at a shelter and they didn’t have a system to put it in?

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[–] • 8 pts

The J&J jewflu vaxx delivers the DNA/RNA payload to your cells using a modified adenovirus that is notorious for being able to defeat your cell's defense systems. The vector for the DNA/RNA is the only real difference between the J&J, Moderna, AZ and Pfizer jab juice. It still infiltrates and modifies your cells to produce the S1 spike protein so it is not any better than the others. There is also the possibility that the J&J can be contagious since it uses an attenuated, modified adenovirus that is highly infectious. I don't have proof of this claim, but it stands to some degree of reason that if it can infect your cells, then it can infect others as well if there is a bodily fluid exchange capable of transmitting a virus.

I don't really have any advice to you, sadly. I just wanted to let you know that the J&J jew juice is no better or safer than the rest. I do wish you the best of luck in your predicament, especially considering your employer could hang the tuition costs they've covered to date on you if they fire you or you quit over the jab dilemma. That would be a bigger fuck you than simply losing you job. Clown World is getting so tiresome. It needs to be burned to the ground and it's ashes buried forever. Fuck this bullshit.

[–] • 1 pt

Well fuck, there goes that avenue. Thank you for setting that straight for me. That is exactly my problem, they WILL make me pay the tuition and I won’t even have my degree. Getting fired carries the weight of a dishonorable discharge, I will not only be unable to find a job but will be stuck with tens of thousands in bills.

I’ve always been poor man but I finally struck the gold mine and have everything I’ve ever wanted and they are going to rip it away and set me off worse than before. I will have less than nothing as I’ll owe them. I fear what I’ll do when I have nothing left to lose and a heart full of hatred.

[–] • 0 pt

Robert Barnes has lots of lawsuits about this going on right now. Pay $5 to join his locals. There's a ton of help in there for people in your situation. Vivabarneslaw.locals.com

[–] • 4 pts

My advice is simple. Have perspective.

You cannot spend wealth if dead and when you leave this earth you take none of it with you.

[–] • 0 pt

The alternative is being homeless again but this time with massive debt. Assuming I don’t kill myself, I’ll essentially be exiled from normal society. Completely fucked doesn’t even begin to describe my situation

[–] • 2 pts

But alive. You'd be alive.

Take arsenic and money.

Or take neither.

[–] • 0 pt

I’d be alive with nothing to live for.

[–] • 1 pt

Oh and a reminder that us has a Labour shortage.

[–] • 0 pt

I I I, me me me,

You really think you're the only one in this boat?

[–] [deleted] • 3 pts

J&J vax uses DNA instead of mRNA but functions similarly. It's not any better and probably worse, since it's different from the other vaccines.

[–] • 3 pts

Get $1000 in cold hard cash. Book in for your vaccine. They draw up the syringe and then wordlessly lay the cash on them. Look at them and nod...

If they say no, book in somewhere else and try again

[–] • 1 pt

Honestly this seems like not such a bad idea.

[–] • 1 pt

I would think that you could get this done for a lot less than $1000.

[–] • 0 pt

If they refuse and report me, I think that may very well be attempted fraud and I’ll be in the same boat as if I faked the card.

[–] • 2 pts

Tell them you're vegan

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

Claim religious exemption based on the aborted fetus cells in the vax. Show them the documentation that it's true...it is. You don't have to belong to a church. Unless you are taking a technical or professional course in college otherwise not worth your time./js I was an employment counselor in my former life for people going through a layoff. The trades make a lot of money and you can own your own business...the only way there is freedom.

[–] • 2 pts

Listen up OP , I'm in a similar position, working closely with my HR department and this advise above from is your recourse

[–] • 2 pts

If i remember it is title VII of the civil rights act of 1964 that requires employers to provide a reasonable alternative due to religious exemptions. In my case this is wearing a mask in the office. Yeah its a cuck out but honestly I'm not as anti mask as most people on here are. Forced vaccinations are my hard line in the sand I'm willing to fight to the death for.

But be prepared for intimidation tactics. I've been called in for meetings with HR for an hour long presentation on the 'risks' I'm taking by not getting the vax.

[–] • 1 pt

You might be better off claiming to be an "ethical vegan" which is apparently a protected category in some places.

[–] • 0 pt

I suppose this is better than risking a felony. I did lie and tell them I have it already but haven’t given them a card, hopefully I can spin that into being afraid of the Mark of the Beast or something. Keeping this job is just about worth anything I can do, I’m finally doing what I’ve always wanted to do. I suppose a trade might be possible but I’ll have the civilian equivalent of a dishonorable discharge on my record.

[–] • 0 pt

but I’ll have the civilian equivalent of a dishonorable discharge on my record.

Lol, if you had any idea how much the average non-trash-human despises the losers that volunteer for the military, you would NOT be concerned about this in the least. If you think this matters one iota to the type of employers you would want to work for, you've got to realize you are under a spell of intense brainwashing and propaganda. Watch the documentary "the minds of men" before you absorb any more of their bullshit

[–] • 0 pt

I was “one of those losers” that volunteered for the Army when I was younger. Only ever people I’ve met that hated service members were trash human beings, most good people are supportive or indifferent.

[–] • 1 pt

See if the French Foreign Legion is getting it. (Probably).

The other idea is to get the NovaVax when it comes out. That one is supposed to be based old protein jacket tech that has been used for flu shots for years.

I'm resisting more and not even doing that, but if I were in a position of fewer resources, that might be the lesser evil I tried.

[–] • 1 pt

There is no “just quit bro” option.

There would be if you were a man of integrity.

We're ALL in this fight. My husband was put on unpaid leave last week. We don't know how this will end, but we know that this is literally the last fight that matters. You submit to this, you are admitting that you are a willing slave. There is no coming back. And people like us will never forgive or respect you. Perhaps if you become suicide bombers in the future we will despise you slightly less than the others, but cowards like you are why this has progressed as far as it has.

[–] • 1 pt

Don't get the death shot. Check your employment contract/college enrollment and see if required proof of vaccination to work and enroll. Don't sign anything acknowledging the need for the covid jab. If you already provided the proof for school stick with that. Lawyer up if they terminate you for breech of contract.

[–] • 1 pt

I'm right there with you brother, I have until the 15th or I'm out. To think of all the education and hard work I've put in, decades, to lose everything for this is cruel. It feels like the handcuffs are on and I'm being put in the back of a cop car, times 10. Someone suggested going for both religious and medical exemptions, I think that's the best idea I've heard.

This is on the docket; tomorrow it gets fda approval, then 95% of employers will require it. There will be plenty of jobs open, businesses will be desperate for people, but they won't consider anyone who's unvaccinated. This is about consolidating money and power. They will do that by stripping all wealth from most of society. The long run results of crippling labor shortages, failed markets, and mass unemployment for both the unvaxxed and the vaxxed.

They might blink, but it's doubtful now that they've carried this charade on for so long. Just keep your head up and remember our ancestors faced similar problems they were able to overcome. If the founding fathers weren't willing to jeopardize their wealth then this country wouldn't exist. It's time for us to step up and sacrifice whether we like it or not.

[–] • 2 pts

What’s your back up plan if you get shitcanned? I’m coming to terms with the fact I’m about to lose everything. I just don’t know what to do man.

I have this childish hope that another Hitler will come along and I can follow him and help him fix everything or die trying.

[–] • 1 pt

I have acreage, I may dip out to do some farming. I'm not sure what's in store, whether people will stand up, or how long this will last. Make a list of the skills you have, start researching how you can generate income from those skills. Talk with family for help if that's an option.

I hate to say it, but it may be best to simply stay alive and run. Learn to sail, sell your house, buy a boat, live on it. Build a massive crypto mining operation with a dozen wind turbines, wind is always blowing at the coast. Get scuba certification and clean hulls. Mexico is not requiring quarantine when going through customs.

Good luck

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

You're allowing yourself to be coerced. Walk away from the carrot on the stick they're holding in front of you. Their way is not the only way. Don't do it, man!

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