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Do you think they will turn to hard drugs like Meth? Heroin? Cocaine? Angel dust? Will they create a junkie fueled zombie apocalypse out of desperation?

Do you think they will turn to hard drugs like Meth? Heroin? Cocaine? Angel dust? Will they create a junkie fueled zombie apocalypse out of desperation?

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[–] 1 pt (edited )

Not exactly true. While Kratom does effect similar receptors, it is not nearly strong enough to keep away opiate withdrawals. It might slightly help, but I think an addict would hardly know the difference, unless they have a very minor addiction and very mild withdrawl.

What works the best is LARGE quantities of Imodium. Imodium is an opiate, albeit a very weak one that doesn’t easily cross the blood brain barrier. There are ways to potentiate it I believe

[–] 1 pt

It indeed can and does, I know from experience.

I was on strong opiates, then Methadone, then Suboxone. Only later did friends tell me they were using it and that it would work. Wish I had known.

If you take enough Kratom it will indeed calm the withdrawals.

[–] 1 pt (edited )

I’m speaking from experience here too bud. I’ve been taking Kratom every day for three years for pain from a motorcycle accident. And I was once a heroin addict. Kratom hardly does anything for withdrawal. And if you took it in large enough doses to try to make a difference it would make you sick.

Since I didn’t want to go back to using opiates, I started using Kratom after the accident, and it works so well on pain that allows me to continue my work as a carpenter without prescription pain meds. But I’ve tried it many times trying to get off heroin and it might help a little bit, but its benefit is negligible when you are in full-on withdraw

[–] 3 pts

Well, glad you kicked the heroin, you should be proud of that.

[–] 1 pt

I disagree. Dunno why we've had a different experience but whatever.

[–] 1 pt

Agreed. Clean from junk for, shit, 5-6 years now. Kratom keeps me out of pain enough to not relapse, but it did not do shit for withdrawals. Took enough it made me puke trying.

Old fashioned locked-myself-in-a-room for 3 days was what did it. Wouldn't recommend, can kill you doing it that way I found out later.

Stay strong, fren.