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I am pushing to move my family from Canada to the US to because I am suffocating here.

But I have to spend the week or two with extended family, many of which work in the healthcare industry. I wanna know how much I would expect to pay out of pocket for health insurance/hospital visit etc.

For Americans, if you don't know, Canadians pride themselves above Americans for three things:

  1. Healthcare being taxpayer funded and therefore "free". Even though it sucks literally shit through a straw and takes 2 years to get an MRI appt. Mostly based on that old Michael Moore documentary.

  2. Milk quality. They made us watch some movie in school about how American milk was actually pus and not milk. Milk standards are almost equivalent between the two countries so idk where this comes from unless everyone believes the propaganda from childhood.

  3. International "likeability". American tourists are hated but everyone likes Canadians! Might be true, but fucking who cares what third worlders think...

Reading online, people are saying $600 per person per month... Holy fuck that can't be true. If you put away 3000$ a month (5 person family) and didn't get insurance, you could fly to Colombia every month, get treated there and fly back, first class.

I wanna know real numbers from actual human beings.

I am pushing to move my family from Canada to the US to because I am suffocating here. But I have to spend the week or two with extended family, many of which work in the healthcare industry. I wanna know how much I would expect to pay out of pocket for health insurance/hospital visit etc. For Americans, if you don't know, Canadians pride themselves above Americans for three things: 1. Healthcare being taxpayer funded and therefore "free". Even though it sucks literally shit through a straw and takes 2 years to get an MRI appt. Mostly based on that old Michael Moore documentary. 2. Milk quality. They made us watch some movie in school about how American milk was actually pus and not milk. Milk standards are almost equivalent between the two countries so idk where this comes from unless everyone believes the propaganda from childhood. 3. International "likeability". American tourists are hated but everyone likes Canadians! Might be true, but fucking who cares what third worlders think... Reading online, people are saying $600 per person per month... Holy fuck that can't be true. If you put away 3000$ a month (5 person family) and didn't get insurance, you could fly to Colombia every month, get treated there and fly back, first class. I wanna know real numbers from actual human beings.

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[–] 2 pts

Health insurance is a scam. You can tell any provider you're uninsured and paying in cash. You'll get a discount of 60-75%.

Prescription drugs are "free" with your copay (typically $100). Meaning you only pay the first $100 of the cost. Great deal right? Except you can go to Costco and get the same drug for $40.

The healthcare providers and insurance companies illegally collude to set prices at 3-4 times actual cost. This makes people think they need insurance because everything is so expensive. However insurance companies only pay the actual cost. The fake price is eliminated in what's called an "adjustment" here's a sample bill.

https://pic8.co/sh/QGz9WK.png

What's an adjustment? Well it just means that was the inflated price that no one is going to pay. You can negotiate the same price, but most American's don't know they can negotiate prices for anything other than cars and houses.

I've never had health insurance. Checkups and cleanings cost $50-$100. Which I pay once or twice a year. Dealing with a broken leg or whatever might run me $10k, but I've saved so much over the years of being uninsured I can afford dozens of such issues. If I have an issue which would bankrupt me it's almost certainly going to be fatal and they can't come after your family for medical bills you incurred.

The only time medical insurance makes sense is if you are very old or have a known condition. These things, or course, make getting insurance almost impossible.

[–] 0 pt

It always makes sense in the US. Cancer treatment or surgery...