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EDIT: Based on feedback from a number of people, I tried electrolyte supplements and all was well today. It looks like I was drinking enough water, but not enough electrolytes.

Hey poaler bears, I want to pick your brains. The last two days I woke up feeling up feeling like I had a nasty hangover (severe headache, nausea, sensitivity to light, etc)...but without the drinking to explain it. I had one beer Monday night, and nothing aside from water last night. I drink plenty of water so being dehydrated would be strange, I'm not diabetic, I dont have sleep apnea, and I'm not sick (I feel fine during the day).

The symptoms are exactly what I'd expect to have if I was 22 and at the bar until 3am, not from drinking a glass of water and going to bed at 9pm like a geezer.

Any ideas where to start looking for a cause?

EDIT: Based on feedback from a number of people, I tried electrolyte supplements and all was well today. It looks like I was drinking enough water, but not enough electrolytes. Hey poaler bears, I want to pick your brains. The last two days I woke up feeling up feeling like I had a nasty hangover (severe headache, nausea, sensitivity to light, etc)...but without the drinking to explain it. I had one beer Monday night, and nothing aside from water last night. I drink plenty of water so being dehydrated would be strange, I'm not diabetic, I dont have sleep apnea, and I'm not sick (I feel fine during the day). The symptoms are exactly what I'd expect to have if I was 22 and at the bar until 3am, not from drinking a glass of water and going to bed at 9pm like a geezer. Any ideas where to start looking for a cause?

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[–] • 9 pts

a hangover is fundamentally an electrolye imbalance, drink a gatorade or something maybe take an iburprophen since it might be mild inflation induced from electrolyte imbalance. water is good but you need salts for the body, but it could be any number of things good luck hope it doesnt last long

[–] • 7 pts

Drink a Brawndo.

[–] • 3 pts

It's got electrolytes.

[–] • 5 pts

Look, noone is denying that Brawndo has what plants crave. This much is true; plants most certainly crave Brawndo.

What I'm arguing, is that what plants crave, isn't electrolytes, at all..

In fact, a close look at the evidence reveals that there has been 0 documented cases of Brawndo having ANY of these supposed 'electrolytes'.

[–] • 2 pts

Good point about water lacking electrolytes. I'll give that a shot since the symptoms fit and it's easy enough to test.

[–] • 4 pts

Had literally the same issue and that was exactly the problem. I ran everyday but drank water almost exclusively.

Pedialyte had me feeling better in short order.

[–] • 0 pt

That sounds a lot like my situation - healthy, lots of cardio, lots of water, possibly not enough electrolyte supplementation.

[–] • 0 pt

Spot on answer, same thing I was going to say.

[–] • 1 pt

electrolyte == potassium, am I right?

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

Muscles work off of a sodium and potassium differential across the cell membrane. A deficiency in either will cause the same symptoms.

[–] • 0 pt

technically all salts are electrolytes, how things are marketed idk. NaCl is salt and it is an electrolyte the more complex salts are usually what your body needs albeit table salt is the bodies biggest electrolyte. also it depends on the chemical for potassium i assume ur talking a potassium electrolyte not just K on the periodic table

[–] • 1 pt

If you were as intelligent as you are trying to sound, you would have noticed that the entire conversation had been about electrolytes. When a word has multiple meanings, if the conversation has consistently used only one of those multiple meanings, any shorthand references to the same word will default to the consistently used meaning. Therefore, as no word was given by the commenter as to a change, your question shows that you haven't actually listened to the conversation.

[–] [deleted] • 9 pts

Did you or anyone in your house take the fake vaccine?

[–] • 4 pts

sleep apnea.

[–] • 2 pts (edited )

Came here to post this. A splitting headache in the morning is a common symptom of sleep apnea. Other symptoms can include high blood pressure, irregular heartbeat, and daytime drowsiness.

[–] • 0 pt

See if you can get a sleep monitor. Depending on who you go through. You might be able to keep a machine for a month or 2 to see if that can pinpoint if its sleep apnea. Annoying as hell the first couple nights but you'll love how you feel in the morning if that fixes it.

[–] • 3 pts

Electrolytes

[–] • 7 pts

Plants crave them.

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

Brought to you by Carls Jr.

[–] • 1 pt

Carl's Jr.:

"FUCK YOU, I'm eating!"

[–] • 0 pt

But why do they crave them?

[–] • 2 pts

Because they have electrolytes.

[–] • 3 pts (edited )

Any ideas where to start looking for a cause?

1) Check the liver, maybe it's going down for some reason. You can get a cirrhosis even if you never drank a drop of alcohol in your life, by being over exposed to acetone over the years typically (like you wash your hands with it when you're done working on something). Maybe your liver isn't working as it should and you feel nauseous as a result

2) Check the wife, she might have tried to poison you and it failed

[–] • 1 pt

My liver's good - had it checked within the last month as part of annual blood work.

[–] • 2 pts

CO2 leak

Dehydration

Breathing or heart issues. Apnoea is a common issue which prevents restful sleep and can originate such symptoms in severe cases.

[–] • 1 pt

Do you mean carbon monoxide? I have co detectors in every room.

I've thought about dehydration and have been drinking plenty of water, but it hasnt made a difference.

I kicked around sleep apnea, but I'm not fat, dont snore, and dont have a recessed jaw, so it'd be pretty unlikely for me to have it (some of the symptoms would fit though).

[–] • 0 pt

Exhaust leaks are a common source of such complaints. Detectors are frequently not installed correctly. For whatever reason, many install them on ceilings where they are useless. I assume your detectors are physically close to the ground?

If symptoms continue I recommend going to a doctor to start with some blood tests and general consultation.

[–] • 1 pt

I did a quick search and didn't find anything about installing CO2 detectors near the ground. Are you meaning like 5 feet above the ground?

[+] [deleted] • 2 pts
[–] • 2 pts

Is it smokey where you live?

[–] • 0 pt

Nope, air quality is good.

[–] • 0 pt

Not asking you to dox your location, but there was visible smoke all the way on the East Coast like a week ago. The fires haven't died down. Even if you can't see it, the particulate count may be pretty high. My inner ears felt like they had swelled shut for two days.

[–] • 0 pt

Are you using a new set of headphones or a new Bluetooth or Wi-Fi device?

[–] • 2 pts

Caffeine withdrawal?

[–] • 1 pt

Caffeine withdrawal usually resembles a migraine towards the front of the head. Hypoxia can do this, which is when oxygen to the brain decreases

[–] • 0 pt

I dont think so. My caffeine intake (~1 cup of coffee per day) hasnt changed.

[–] • 1 pt

If it keeps up, it might be time to consider seeing a neurologist. Migraines are more than just head pains, sometimes the non-pain related migraine symptoms are unintuitive.

I would advise my poaler friend to drink a caffeinated electrolyte and to relax (ideally nap) with a gentle heat pad on your neck and shoulders. If you aren't feeling better in a day, call a Dr. Any walk-in clinic should be able to help.

[–] • 1 pt

Migraines are more than just head pains, sometimes the non-pain related migraine symptoms are unintuitive.

Nausea, shakiness, visual auras. Terrible when it lasts 18+ hours.

[–] • 1 pt (edited )

I had a similar experience with the punishment not fitting the crime. Hangovers from a single drink of high grade hooch. WTF? Put on my science hat and dove deep.

Our bodies produce 2 liver enzymes that metabolize alcohol. Alcohol Dehydrogenase and Aldehyde Dehydrogenase. ADH & ALDH, respectively. ADH breaks down booze into acetaldehyde (toxic as all hell) and then ALDH picks up the baton and further breaks the poison down into acetate which is then further denuded into H2O & CO2 and eliminated.

The presence and efficacy of these enzymes is both genetic and age dependant. Which explains why injuns can't handle the firewater and why hangovers hurt more than they used to for some of us as we advance in years.

Leave it alone and let it lie in the cask, keg or bottle on the top shelf, fridge or cellar and you'll feel better. All alcohol is poison. Doesn't matter how bright, rich, dry, sweet, sour, soft, firm, big, subtle, opulent, austere, bubbly, oaky, fruity, tanniny, leggy, smokey, peaty, hoppy, tobaccoy, toasty, plump, pungent or passionate it is. It's still poison.

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