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This must be the most hated generation of all time.

I thought Boomer hate was a bit over the top until the last few years when, effortlessly, Millenials surpassed the Boomers in general stupidity, self-aborbdness, selfishness, shocking sense of self-entitlement, and generally being annoying.

How the fuck did these fuckers end up like this?

I cannot for the life of me undertand the way they think.

I am not like some old person complaining about the young, which is a given for much of history. Most old people complain about the young with an implicit understanding that they are old in their ways and that the young are just rebelling, which they themselves did in their youth.

But the super fucking annoying thing with the rebellion of these Millenial A-holes is that they are rebelling by...standing WITH The Establishment? WHAT THE FLYING FUCK?

In all of history, the young always sought to stick it to the man. They always fought authority or mocked it.

But these fucking Millenials are...with the authority? What the fuck? Why would you push for everything that the Establishment stands for?

There must be some phenomenon here that I don't understand on why, for the first time in history, the young don't fight the Establishment, but fights those who fights the Establishment. The young have become bootlickers and lapdogs of the Establishment.

Can somebody explain how the Millenials became this way?

This must be the most hated generation of all time. I thought Boomer hate was a bit over the top until the last few years when, effortlessly, Millenials surpassed the Boomers in general stupidity, self-aborbdness, selfishness, shocking sense of self-entitlement, and generally being annoying. How the fuck did these fuckers end up like this? I cannot for the life of me undertand the way they think. I am not like some old person complaining about the young, which is a given for much of history. Most old people complain about the young with an implicit understanding that they are old in their ways and that the young are just rebelling, which they themselves did in their youth. But the super fucking annoying thing with the rebellion of these Millenial A-holes is that they are rebelling by...standing WITH The Establishment? WHAT THE FLYING FUCK? In all of history, the young always sought to stick it to the man. They always fought authority or mocked it. But these fucking Millenials are...with the authority? What the fuck? Why would you push for everything that the Establishment stands for? There must be some phenomenon here that I don't understand on why, for the first time in history, the young don't fight the Establishment, but fights those who fights the Establishment. **The young have become bootlickers and lapdogs of the Establishment**. Can somebody explain how the Millenials became this way?

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>I'm just curious if you think they did us a favor with banning that subreddit.

Maybe. Now you and me are here and elsewhere. Could it have happened otherwise?

>In the other comment you gave a clip of scarface. I actually never saw that movie. But given that there is a screaming madman being shot, I assume you like that, because someone acting prideful failed?

Maybe you should watch this movie instead of drawing arbitrary conjectures. It tells a lot about good and evil, and sin, if you can "read between the lines". There's much more than "someone acting prideful failed" to it.

I think you're starting to get mad because you don't get your point across, and you start to attribute made up shit to me, as a result.

> I cant think of a popular example of prideful people failing

Then maybe you should start learning about it https://www.thoughtco.com/crime-of-hubris-in-greek-tragedy-118996

https://thesportjournal.org/article/when-pride-goes-wrong/

>Pride, however, can degenerate into something abhorrent. Athletes cheat and injure others in order to achieve success and bolster their pride. Coaches can become controlling and abusive of athletes as they seek success and enhancement of their pride. Parents meddle into the affairs of coaches and abuse their children in the pursuit of athletic success, their means to enhancing parental pride. Pride can be the motivation for antagonistic actions as individuals compete for the social standing, fame, and riches associated with athletic success.

That's the part of pride that christianity warns about, that greeks warned about

Pride is an emotion

>Does that make you happy?

You really should quit with that misplaced "grudge", it has no place here

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That's the part of pride that christianity warns about, that greeks warned about

Alright, people in the pursuit of success can injure themselves and others. I agree.

But what about the people who avoid pride? Who are humble? Who despise egoism, pride, arrogance?

Do they cheat? Do they injure others?

For example, I think we both can agree that Biden comes of as far more humble than Trump. Does that make you trust Biden more to play fair?

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I don't see egoism, pride, and arrogance as paramount values

Does that mean I should root for the opposite, regardless of circumstances? Blind generosity and shame and low self esteem? Of course not.

Biden isn't humble, he's as arrogant if not more than trump, while pretending otherwise. He's often less direct, that's all. He's however more prudent then trump.

In that scarface scene, you focused on "someone acting prideful failed". And there's another guy in that scene, who doesn't show off, who doesn't waste time and energy in futility

Talking about pride, look the "gays". What have they gained with their "pride" thing? Hostility, unwanted attention, that's what https://vid8.poal.co/user/0k_/WBSV1xB

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You are right. Disliking pride doesn't mean that you like or prefer the opposite. Which I think is reasonable.

And there's another guy in that scene, who doesn't show off, who doesn't waste time and energy in futility

And if he would later show off when he has a beer with his friends, or tells his grandchildren about how he got scarface (ergo experience pride), would that lessen his achievements?

Not wasting time in futility. As in, being efficient and professional. Is that something to take pride in?

And even Scarface himself. Now, I don't know the movie so I can only speculate. Albeit the same might apply to other mobster and villains.

Him being arrogant might've killed him. But I'm assuming he was no ordinary guy. His pride might've pushed him to become infamous, someone worth watching in a movie. Someone to remember. A more interesting character.

Wouldn't that mean that there is something desirable and admirable in this "deadly sin"?