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So unless you have been living under a rock for the past few months, you might be aware that the Taliban have been steamrolling the Afghan government ever since the US pulled out. They now control over half the country and are gaining ground day by day.

I'd say Afghan government probably has about 1 year left.

So unless you have been living under a rock for the past few months, you might be aware that the Taliban have been steamrolling the Afghan government ever since the US pulled out. They now control over half the country and are gaining ground day by day. [Interactive map of Taliban vs Afg Gov control](https://gandhara.rferl.org/a/taliban-control-afghanistan/31360050.html) I'd say Afghan government probably has about 1 year left.

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Looking for any care or fucks to give.

Finding none.

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If a tree falls in the forest....

So you do not find 4th generation warfare interesting? The fact that lightly armed militias were able to defeat the most powerful military on earth after 20 years of guerilla warfare?

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Send all the military trannies and faggots to go die for Israel over there. Whatever.

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maybe we got the US armys current recruitment drive all wrong.

bring the men back home from the constant wars.

send the soyboys overseas instead.

who would you rather have at home?

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Only trannys. Niggers spics and faggots. You can also have prisoners. Empty federal and state prisoners. Give them all guns and parachutes. Drop em off. Let the kikes have the degenerates.

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Afghanistan isn't known as the graveyard of empires for nothing.

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Rules of the game. State actors are acting under mostly internal constraints to limit harm to civilians for PR purposes. During WWII, the Allies made it a deliberate policy to target civilians on a massive scale. Mass murder, torture, rape, burning down cities, starvation, and of course shooting anyone who even seemed suspicious. If the struggle is existential for the state, they will change the rules. No one cares enough about Afghanistan (or Vietnam, Iraq, etc.) to do so.

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Your name is "indoaryan" which means someone from Afghanistan basically. So I see why you have skin in the game.

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Implying the military had any interest in "winning" any war in the desert? Good one.

defeat

Surviving a troop/SQ mile at its peak that is 1/20 what Vietnam was doesn't seem that hard or remarkable.

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Surviving a troop/SQ mile at its peak that is 1/20 what Vietnam was doesn't seem that hard or remarkable.

What's your point? America still lost in Vietnam to an enemy that was vastly inferior in logistics, resources and technology.

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I think I see one! No, sorry, that's a leaf.

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You misspelled CIA.

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It's great that the US is out of there, the whole thing was pointless. But, addressing the question, I think the acclamation of victory for the Taliban is premature. To begin with the Taliban are not even trying to take over large towns, instead focusing on choking them off. The media is reporting when districts fall, but fails to mention that many of them are quickly recaptured by the central government. Twenty years of US control has influenced many people. There are many folks that are desperate now that NATO is not defending them. They may get off their asses now that their lives are on the line and do the fighting themselves.

The US and the Afgan central government discouraged the formation of local militias, because they were a unpredictable competitor for power, and many were worried about a return to the chaos of the early 90's, when the Soviet Union left, before the Taliban took over. Now that the US has withdrawn, the central government, in a fit of desperation, is allowing and supporting local militias.

The Taliban is not universally popular. They are seen by many Afgans as Pakistani Pushtu puppets, in a nation with many ethnic groups.

Of course the Chinese have expressed interest in controlling Afghanistan. That's a wild card I'm getting my popcorn ready to watch.

Very interesting perspective. Do you think local militias comprised of hazaras, uzbeks and other minorities will be able to defeat the Pashtuns? Or will they be relegated back to a small stronghold in the North like the Northern Alliance was before the 2001 Aghanistan war?

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Arent you optimistic? Beats the fuck out of our paying billions of dollars and patriot lives for nothing.

I think you are optimistic by naturally assuming that members of the US military are patriots.

Are you willing to go over there and die?

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> killing brown people, or better yet dying, for israhell/zogmerica is patriotic.

I know they don't know any better, but that doesn't make them morally justified. If they were real patriots, they would be at home raising strong sons and daughters and teaching them about the jews.

They go over there and 'die' because it's a better alternative to being court martialed under UCMJ, sentenced to military prison & given a dishonorable discharge.

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Judging by how much territory was captured since the May 1st withdrawal, I bet the Afghanistan goverment will capitulate by october.

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China is gonna befriend them, they will gain access to the world's largest supply of rare earth minerals without even having to fire a shot. shit....

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After 20 years of drone striking their funerals, weddings, etc. and shooting/guantanomowing any civilian that looks a bit shifty, I think the US can expect another 9/11-level response within the decade.

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The reality is that the "Taliban" is what the people of Afghanistan want... FOR THE MOST PART. The "Taliban" is not a completely homogenous group. It's mostly an umbrella term used to define one of only two options the people there have. Option 1 is the foreign influences and puppet leaders of the west who have very plainly brutalized and exploited the people of Afghanistan with an iron fist, while neglecting their culture and history. Option 2 is the "Taliban" which is pushing for what existed before America illegally invaded the country and overthrough the soverign government.

Based on this reality is easy to see why "The Taliban" is sweeping in so quickly. The people want to put the US occupation behind them.

EDIT: The Taliban did not spend the last 10 years conducting regular drone strikes on civilians. Killing 300 in a day, then hours later killing 100 search and rescue civilians digging through rubble, then a day later bombing the funeral of the 400 victims, killing another 100 and finally a week later killing the last 3 remaining children still living in the village.

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How long before China invades?

Not long at all.

I'm sure they'll send a million men down that valley to secure the pipeline routes from the Caspian sea.

China is just itching for war with somebody. If they don't get one soon, they'll overthrow their own government. They can't go against India, 'cause nukes. Can't go to Taiwon, same reason. Philippines has too many people, and it's too much navy for China, despite the propaganda, plus America will absolutely get involved. Can't go to Russia. They are scared of Vietnam, as they should be. South Korea and Japan are armed to the teeth, and don't even need America's help to defeat China..

So where can they go?

They can go to Afghanistan.

Possibly before the end of the year.

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Let the Afghans unite with the "Taliban," and that will stop ALL the fighting. Problem solved.

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Belt and road is China taking over Africa.

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