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I am doing some renovations and cleaning up the property for a week. I offered one of my 13 year old brother-in-laws 10$ an hour to come and help. I said it could be more if he puts in some elbow grease. I see him around my MILs house and he is a completely lazy teenager so I'm not expecting much, but it could just be he is lazy around the house. Now he can't drive (obviously) and has absolutely no experience with power tools (because FIL is a deadbeat and left some time ago). He would probably need supervision with almost everything except digging holes (and I don't have holes that need digging). More importantly I would like him to come out because FIL is gone, he's got no one to teach him how to be a man and it's an opportunity to redpill him out of the shitty brainwashing the school is doing. I'm willing to take a loss and hire him for some halfassed help if it means helping out a future white man. He said he wants more than 10$ an hour. Part of me want to kick his ass out of principle. Part of me wants to politely decline and forget it. Part of me just wants to swallow my pride and the cost, it's not going to be a lot of money even at 15 or whatever (I didn't ask him how much more) and I could still help him.

I am doing some renovations and cleaning up the property for a week. I offered one of my 13 year old brother-in-laws 10$ an hour to come and help. I said it could be more if he puts in some elbow grease. I see him around my MILs house and he is a completely lazy teenager so I'm not expecting much, but it could just be he is lazy around the house.

Now he can't drive (obviously) and has absolutely no experience with power tools (because FIL is a deadbeat and left some time ago). He would probably need supervision with almost everything except digging holes (and I don't have holes that need digging).

More importantly I would like him to come out because FIL is gone, he's got no one to teach him how to be a man and it's an opportunity to redpill him out of the shitty brainwashing the school is doing. I'm willing to take a loss and hire him for some halfassed help if it means helping out a future white man.

He said he wants more than 10$ an hour.

Part of me want to kick his ass out of principle. Part of me wants to politely decline and forget it. Part of me just wants to swallow my pride and the cost, it's not going to be a lot of money even at 15 or whatever (I didn't ask him how much more) and I could still help him.

Decline
Stay firm at 10
Offer 15
Kick his ass (not really an option I'm not gonna fight a 13 yo)
Fuck You!

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[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

I’m fighting this one with my boy. Just turned 7, and loves video games. All his friends have a Nintendo switch.

I pirated some nes, snes, and n64 games that he occasionally gets to play, but it’s never enough. And despite getting him outside, or just sending him outside to play, there’s always that disappointment that he can’t just stay in and play….

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You need to find something to kindle his love for the outdoors. Camping, hiking, boating, fishing, anything with the dog, and so on. Get out there and make memories, pay attention to anything he seems to spend time doing outside.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Yeah. Working on it. At this point, he loves soccer. It’s a start….

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I started making wooden swords around his age. Get him a saw and some planks of wood. Draw a sword. Have him cut it out. When I got older I got more into sanding and staining out painting the wood. Someone bought a sword from me for a cosplay and it was the best moment of my life.

Whittling, turning tree branches into spears, turning Popsicles into switchblades:

A child: https://youtu.be/GB-aFzp7ppI

A pro: https://youtu.be/UEJ_9WN5g48

Give your kid stupid hobbies to have fun with! And if you want to keep him off screens you have to get him into D&D. When I was a kid we used to go out and play zombies in the woods, now everyone plays D&D instead. See if there are any groups for kids around. If you wanted to throw a starter campaign for his friends they could make their own weapons from Popsicles and learn the rules, then play by themselves in the future.