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I am doing some renovations and cleaning up the property for a week. I offered one of my 13 year old brother-in-laws 10$ an hour to come and help. I said it could be more if he puts in some elbow grease. I see him around my MILs house and he is a completely lazy teenager so I'm not expecting much, but it could just be he is lazy around the house. Now he can't drive (obviously) and has absolutely no experience with power tools (because FIL is a deadbeat and left some time ago). He would probably need supervision with almost everything except digging holes (and I don't have holes that need digging). More importantly I would like him to come out because FIL is gone, he's got no one to teach him how to be a man and it's an opportunity to redpill him out of the shitty brainwashing the school is doing. I'm willing to take a loss and hire him for some halfassed help if it means helping out a future white man. He said he wants more than 10$ an hour. Part of me want to kick his ass out of principle. Part of me wants to politely decline and forget it. Part of me just wants to swallow my pride and the cost, it's not going to be a lot of money even at 15 or whatever (I didn't ask him how much more) and I could still help him.

I am doing some renovations and cleaning up the property for a week. I offered one of my 13 year old brother-in-laws 10$ an hour to come and help. I said it could be more if he puts in some elbow grease. I see him around my MILs house and he is a completely lazy teenager so I'm not expecting much, but it could just be he is lazy around the house.

Now he can't drive (obviously) and has absolutely no experience with power tools (because FIL is a deadbeat and left some time ago). He would probably need supervision with almost everything except digging holes (and I don't have holes that need digging).

More importantly I would like him to come out because FIL is gone, he's got no one to teach him how to be a man and it's an opportunity to redpill him out of the shitty brainwashing the school is doing. I'm willing to take a loss and hire him for some halfassed help if it means helping out a future white man.

He said he wants more than 10$ an hour.

Part of me want to kick his ass out of principle. Part of me wants to politely decline and forget it. Part of me just wants to swallow my pride and the cost, it's not going to be a lot of money even at 15 or whatever (I didn't ask him how much more) and I could still help him.

Decline
Stay firm at 10
Offer 15
Kick his ass (not really an option I'm not gonna fight a 13 yo)
Fuck You!

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[–] • 4 pts

First of all, tell him $15 is on the table.

Tell him the offer is $10 because you are not sure if he can actually do the work. He is very young after all and not accustomed to real work yet. Real work requires real effort and focus. He may not have that yet and so he will take longer to get the job done.

However, if he does in fact do the work, and completes the job, in a normal amount of time, then he will then indeed be paid $15 per hour instead of $10.

[–] • 1 pt

I think I like this.

You don't wanna knock the hustle. The Big Open is a good negotiating tactic.

At some point see if you can get him to watch Dead Poets Society and Fight Club with you.