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I am doing some renovations and cleaning up the property for a week. I offered one of my 13 year old brother-in-laws 10$ an hour to come and help. I said it could be more if he puts in some elbow grease. I see him around my MILs house and he is a completely lazy teenager so I'm not expecting much, but it could just be he is lazy around the house. Now he can't drive (obviously) and has absolutely no experience with power tools (because FIL is a deadbeat and left some time ago). He would probably need supervision with almost everything except digging holes (and I don't have holes that need digging). More importantly I would like him to come out because FIL is gone, he's got no one to teach him how to be a man and it's an opportunity to redpill him out of the shitty brainwashing the school is doing. I'm willing to take a loss and hire him for some halfassed help if it means helping out a future white man. He said he wants more than 10$ an hour. Part of me want to kick his ass out of principle. Part of me wants to politely decline and forget it. Part of me just wants to swallow my pride and the cost, it's not going to be a lot of money even at 15 or whatever (I didn't ask him how much more) and I could still help him.

I am doing some renovations and cleaning up the property for a week. I offered one of my 13 year old brother-in-laws 10$ an hour to come and help. I said it could be more if he puts in some elbow grease. I see him around my MILs house and he is a completely lazy teenager so I'm not expecting much, but it could just be he is lazy around the house.

Now he can't drive (obviously) and has absolutely no experience with power tools (because FIL is a deadbeat and left some time ago). He would probably need supervision with almost everything except digging holes (and I don't have holes that need digging).

More importantly I would like him to come out because FIL is gone, he's got no one to teach him how to be a man and it's an opportunity to redpill him out of the shitty brainwashing the school is doing. I'm willing to take a loss and hire him for some halfassed help if it means helping out a future white man.

He said he wants more than 10$ an hour.

Part of me want to kick his ass out of principle. Part of me wants to politely decline and forget it. Part of me just wants to swallow my pride and the cost, it's not going to be a lot of money even at 15 or whatever (I didn't ask him how much more) and I could still help him.

Decline
Stay firm at 10
Offer 15
Kick his ass (not really an option I'm not gonna fight a 13 yo)
Fuck You!

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[–] • 22 pts

13 year olds are not qualified to earn $10 an hour, generally.

What you do, is you bid out the job. Don't pay hourly.

Ask yourself how much time it would take you to do A, B and C, then calculate a number.

Offering him, say, $1000, is far more appealing to a 13 year old, so long as you don't tell him he is going to work for 200 hours.

Alternatively, 13 year old boys love guns, knives and cars. The promise of guns, knives and or cars is usually enough for me to get my kids in gear.

Also, acting like "the company store," where he gets items then works them off a little is an okay idea, too.

Also, no devices. No Internet. This is the primary reason they won't do anything. Get an NES or emulators and USB controllers. If you keep the gaming to 80s games, the attention span for it dies off real quick.

[–] • 3 pts (edited )

So true about the games, I grew up loving NES so much, but I still spent most of my time playing outside because they just weren't that time consuming or addicting.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

I’m fighting this one with my boy. Just turned 7, and loves video games. All his friends have a Nintendo switch.

I pirated some nes, snes, and n64 games that he occasionally gets to play, but it’s never enough. And despite getting him outside, or just sending him outside to play, there’s always that disappointment that he can’t just stay in and play….

[–] • 1 pt

You need to find something to kindle his love for the outdoors. Camping, hiking, boating, fishing, anything with the dog, and so on. Get out there and make memories, pay attention to anything he seems to spend time doing outside.

[–] • 1 pt

Yeah, die 3 times, game over, back to the beginning... fuck that im going outside to play in the woods.

[–] • 3 pts

Good tips, thanks.

[–] • 1 pt

Expanding upon the idea, you could offer an early completion incentive bonus.

[–] • 2 pts (edited )

>If you keep the gaming to 80s games, the attention span for it dies off real quick

Pffffftttttt somebody never played "Super Metroid" or "A Link to the Past"

Edit: I suppose those are 90s games. Yeah, "Pong" and "Donkey Kong" do get old fast

[–] • 1 pt

Have you seen the Super Metroid/Link to the Past combo randomizer? It's a lot of fun to play once you understand the maps & logic, and even more fun to watch people race, as there's no set route so runners need to make routing decisions on the fly.

[–] • 0 pt

Mother fucker you're going to owe me years of my life back for this!!!!!