I work mainly on old houzes... think peir and beam. I have a warehouse and I broke the concrete up that had rebar and had water damage it was built in the 80s.. the water damaged area was weaker but holy shit it was still insanely hard to break apart and the fucking rebar was rock solid aka no way it would have come down.
Am I an expert hell no. Do I think that building fell that way from water damage? Ummm hell fucking no if it can happen like that we would be seeing more incidents like that. Reminds me of the Spanish building that burned for 24 hours and they still completed it.
Anyway I am open minded you seem reasonable actually acting more reasonable then me. Maybe we should wait and see what comes out. I don't watch TV very much but you would think this story would be all over the news and I have not seen much about it at all
Anyways let's see what comes out if it is memory holed as I suspect<<< like the Vegas shootings kinda just went away and we never got a legit explanation either.
Am I an expert hell no
Then stop acting like one and realize that there are many factors that you haven't considered. You broke one piece of concrete. How many varieties are there? What PSI rating was used in this building? What chemicals were in the water that weren't in the piece you handled? What was the difference in structural load? How was the concrete manufactured? Was it pre or post stressed?
That isn't even close to representing the multitude of questions that need to be asked before a conclusion can be reached. Will the government ask those questions? No, but they arent as short sighted and stupid as they seem. They will gather a team to craft a narrative that leads to whatever conclusion they feel will upset the public the least. The MSM will most likely fall in lock step with them and memory hole this just like you think they will. Especially since they reunited the dream team back in January.
For my opinion, and you should note that this is the first time I've offered one in this discussion, I wouldn't be surprised if a sink hole is involved. Especially considering the location. Watching the video, I don't believe it was explosions. The building fell in sections just like a structural damage collapse would happen. Not a free fall event like WTC. Plus it demonstrated an uneven collapse. If the concrete was damaged in more areas in a similar fashion to the ones in the pictures the pool maintainance guy took, that building could have been completely fucked. It showed concrete completely eaten away so that the metal inside is showing. How much concrete had to wash away to expose that? I've seen concrete roofs with less damage than that which couldn't support 100 pounds with collapsing. And that damage was just from rain. Not corrosive pool chemicals. The few things I've seen make the pool leak as the cause entirely plausible. Would I make the claim? Fuck no. But I won't discount any claims. Explosive demolition isn't off the table either. The best we can hope for is an independent study.
The theorist in me hopes this is part of the mcaffee saga and that it was a failed attempt to stop the flow of information. That could definitely explain the IDF involvement.
Yep sink hole seems like the only possible natural explanation. I agree with a lot of your theories. I did hear or read that the pool was still intact? <<< is this confirmed? Not sure.
Will we get the truth? I doubt it. I think it's a little weird they completely have ignored terrorist or domestic terrorist so far.
And I agree someone said mcafee owned something there and could have had physical evidence pictures etc.. <<< me too I hope this comes out as a possibility, but would for sure be memory holed.
Ok what's your thoughts on the damn IDF! WHY THE HELL ARE THEY THERE?
Yep sink hole seems like the only possible natural explanation.
IIRC, I saw a picture that claimed there was sink hole activity in the area but didn't look hard enough to give it credibility.
That would be ironic if the pool itself was still intact. But it wouldn't rule out anything. The pool wasn't at the bottom of the structure. If you know how a bullet goes through a body with a small entry hole, doing consistently more damage as it travels, that's how the water would travel. It would spread on the way down. I did read an article that an eyewitness said the pool itself caved in. Not claiming that as proof though because it's an article with a quote from someone.
Will we get the truth? I doubt it.
I couldn't agree more.
think it's a little weird they completely have ignored terrorist or domestic terrorist so far.
I don't. The dems are riding high on the hog right now. Terrorism only happens when they are either trying to raise money or trying to ban guns. There's no real push for either right now.
->the IDF
I can't even venture a guess as to why our "greatest ally" took their attention away from their fight with Palestinians long enough to cover a 'not really big in comparison to other buildings' catastrophe. I'm with you in the idea that it isn't a straightforward aid mission.
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