Any time the topic of guns comes up and there are women around I tell this story: You know who tho most pro-gun people I've ever met are? I did volunteer work for a women's group that was for victims of violence and sexual assault. They found that most women after being attacked the first time tried to get a gun or pepper spray and found it exceedingly difficult. A few ended up dead because they couldn't get a gun to defend themselves against a systematic abuser. The organizers of the group looked into who made these laws and found it was all men with a well documented history of sexual misconduct or abusing women... I go on for about 5 mins telling this story. The great thing about it being a story is there is no where for the woman (or betaboy) to argue with you. I'm just relating what these women told me they learned.