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Assume there is a universal goal that is better sought than any known to human. The duty to this universal good would be more important than a person's duty to himself or his species or his planet. By what means should a human try to learn what this universal good is?

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By the laws of nature one should take whatever action gives the highest chance to pass on one's genes. This leads to a direct ethical duty to one's species. So to take that one step further one has a duty to uphold the stability of the universe, right? But that's shortsighted too: it assumes that replicating one's genes actually is the ethically correct thing to do. So a search for transcendent ethics may start at a higher* level than life. It may involve duties beyond one's own universe.

But how can an entity have a duty beyond what that entity is able to influence? That's a red herring. Whatever my actual ethical duty it's best to understand that duty from the highest* possible perspective. Even if I have no higher duty than is in regard to those things I can influence, knowing what that duty is requires a higher* level of understanding.

*as in high level vs low level programming, where assembly is low level code and java is high level code

Assume there is a universal goal that is better sought than any known to human. The duty to this universal good would be more important than a person's duty to himself or his species or his planet. By what means should a human try to learn what this universal good is? edit: just hashing things out here: By the laws of nature one should take whatever action gives the highest chance to pass on one's genes. This leads to a direct ethical duty to one's species. So to take that one step further one has a duty to uphold the stability of the universe, right? But that's shortsighted too: it assumes that replicating one's genes actually is the ethically correct thing to do. So a search for transcendent ethics may start at a higher* level than life. It may involve duties beyond one's own universe. But how can an entity have a duty beyond what that entity is able to influence? That's a red herring. Whatever my actual ethical duty it's best to understand that duty from the highest* possible perspective. Even if I have no higher duty than is in regard to those things I can influence, knowing what that duty is requires a higher* level of understanding. *as in high level vs low level programming, where assembly is low level code and java is high level code

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Assume there is an actual God that created the universe and yourself, your duty to him would be incalculable. Even the chance of his existence radically alters your life.

OP: Well - ignoring God, is there some other principle I can live by?

No, there isn't.

Read about the life of Padre Pio. God isn't staying hid or out of sight, people don't want to find him. The purpose and only use of this life is to fall in love with God. Everything else is just a distraction from that goal.

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ignoring God, is there some other principle I can live by?

That's not what I said at all.

God isn't staying hid or out of sight

Really? What does he look like and where can I meet him? Does he do appointments?

Read the life of Padre Pio

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Okay, I read this page: https://www.padrepiodapietrelcina.com/en/life-padre-pio-biography/#Young_Padre_Pio

Now what does God look like and where can I meet him? Does he do appointments?