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Well clearly theyre not fine. How many more tens of thousands of people need to be injured or killed. This is causing severe covid cardiovascular disease in young people who were never at risk for getting severe covid. How much more info do you need?

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I know that especially the viral vector vaccines have the clotting problem - the mRNA vaccines not so (their problem is an immediate allergic reaction). The clotting occurs days after the injection, so it can be a problem with the spike proteins produced, or a problem with the immune reaction.

One argument against the spike protein theory is that mRNA vaccines produce the same proteins without these problems. The other argument is that the real virus produces 10x times more spike proteins than a vaccine, but asymptomatic and mild cases show that the proteins don't cause automatically a problem.

Here is a long discussion about a preprint paper that tests different theories: Drbeen Medical Lectures: Soluble Spike Proteins by Adenovirus Vaccines? https://youtu.be/_vtvi5117DI

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No. They all have the problem. Even the old fashion vaxes used by India and China are resulting in clotting deaths.

Quick question: why didn’t china use mRNA in either of their vaccines? Maybe they know something you dont. How well can you control the number of spike proteins the body is exposed to in a traditional vax? How well can you control the number of spike proteins in the body with an mRNA vax?

One argument against the spike protein theory is that mRNA vaccines produce the same proteins without these problems

Can you restate that because I don’t understand what you mean?

Can you tell me how many spike proteins are produced by the mRNA vax in a 70 year old? Can you tell me how many are produced in an 18 year old? Can you tell me how many spike proteins a moderate unhospitalized covid sufferer produces in the infection? A severe hospitalized covid sufferer? What is the range of D-dimer test for clotting in these groups? What is the range of platelet counts for these groups?

Can you guarantee to me that, of the 18 yr olds that get this jab, 99.99% of them have relatively normal values for those tests for the two weeks after this jab? Because the chances of an 18yr old getting the severe covid cardiovascular disease is less than 1 in 10,000. SARs CoV 2 never gets far beyond the respiratory tract to infect the vascular tissue in young people. Unless you were to do something stupid and inject it in to their veins. This is reckless stupidity in young people, who stand to benefit nothing.

The other argument is that the real virus produces 10x times more spike proteins than a vaccine

I mean I think that its highly likely that in an 18 year old the truth is the exact opposite

You don’t know what that data looks like because they aint telling you! What percent of the recipients suffer from clinical thrombocytopenia or thrombosis?

They went to the ends of the earth to test and record everyone with a single virion up their nostril which was reported ubiquitously. How much trouble are they going to to find adverse events and deaths from the vax? None at all. Its all voluntary. If you feel like it. Still there are 300,000 adverse events reported and 5000 deaths and 20,000 hospitalizations. In the US. nearly 3/4 of these are moderna or biontech. Alot of these are infarctions, strokes, vein thromboses, severe headaches from mRNA viruses.

So I don’t know how you can dismiss the problem when there is a mountain of evidence on VAERS of mRNA causing clotting and coagulopathy. Just go on twitter and see how many people are complaining of splitting headaches and heavy periods. What do you think causes those?

They are giving this to pregnant women!!!!???!?!?!? Children as young as twelve being vaxed at pop up clinics without parental supervision for free ice cream.

Why do you think the adenovirus vaxes cause clots but not the mRNA vaxes? Something different about the technology? What? Or is it just a dosing thing? The mRNA vaxes just guessed the doses better? What reliable info can you base that on? Because we dont have any reliable data. The press has reported some of the astra zeneca deaths but suppressed the moderna and pfizer deaths. WE DONT HAVE ANY RELIABLE DATA!

Ive told you the data I would have to see to believe the risks were low with mRNA vax. They aren’t showing it so there is only one reason why—- It ain’t good.

Why do people hide data? Because its bad.

In any case, the risk benefit ratio gets even worse for the vax when you allow people to have access to cheap antivirals early in the course of the disease. Everybody acts like the choices are either get vaxxed or run the risk of getting severe covid because “there’s still no cure”— that’s a lie. Its curable if you get these drugs early.

I can think of a few reasons why mRNA could be worse than the VV vaccines. Platelets will be absorbing the mRNA package and replicating the spike protein— leading to increased coagulopathy. That can’t happen in the adenovirus vax because platelets dont have a nucleus. Another reason: when the body detects extracellular RNA it assumes that cells have been damaged and induces a pro-thrombic state. That will automatically happen with an mRNA vax.

The spike protein is so bad its causing a surge of respiratory and dermatoloigical illnesses in people that have been vaxed and people in close contact with recently vaxed people. If people can get respiratory distress and rashes just being around a family member who was vaxed, from inhaling the shed spike protein, what is that shit doing to the inside of your veins?

Have you seen Moderna arm? You think that isn’t happening to the endothelials in your vascular tisssue too?

You don’t know how much spike protein is safe. You don’t know how much the vaccine is causing various individuals to produce. Why are they trying to make people who had the virus take this? Why must everyone have 2 shots? How have they addressed the ADE problem? When is that shoe going to drop.

I could go on and on with this but Ill stop here. I will check out the link. Ive seen Dr Been, I think he’s solid.

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No. They all have the problem. Even the old fashion vaxes used by India and China are resulting in clotting deaths.

The problems caused by the vaccines are very different in numbers. Only the viral vector vaccines have so many clotting problems that some countries stopped their use temporary.

Have you seen Moderna arm?

The mRNA vaccines have other problems than the VVVs, mostly allergic reactions. These reactions start within minutes or hours. The VVV blood clotting often starts a week after the injection. It can be treated if people are alerted to look for the symptoms and inform their doctor immediately. But nobody told them, to avoid "vaccine hesitancy".

How well can you control the number of spike proteins in the body with an mRNA vax?

The numbers cannot get measured because they are local, you would have to cut out some muscle to get them. The spike proteins get produced by antigen presenting cells who then present them on their surface. Immune system cells detect the proteins, killer cells mop up the mess.

“there’s still no cure”— that’s a lie.

Yes. The emergency approvals for the vaccines are invalid in the moment the FDA is forced to approve a cure. That's why they have fought against HCQ, fight against ivermectin, and why they refuse to fully approve the antibody cocktails (while these work 100%, they get only partially approvals for "high-risk" cases, only high doses, only until x days after infection and so on).

Ive seen Dr Been, I think he’s solid.

YT deleting some of his videos about HCQ and ivermectin earned him some street cred.