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Apart from the obvious “jewed to high heaven”, is there anything of value to be found in that field?

Apart from the obvious “jewed to high heaven”, is there anything of value to be found in that field?

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[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

Most people can get the help they need without taking drugs. Psychologists have a pill for every thought that comes into your head.

[–] • 3 pts

Well, that would be the psychiatrist.

But I do suppose they’re downstream from psychologists.

[–] • 1 pt

I once watched a commercial for shoes and they went through and were nice enough to explain the different shapes of feet and toes and what happens when you wear the wrong kind of shoes the only problem was by the time I got to the end of the commercial I realized they had practically covered every type of foot shape or toe shape that has been documented by man, they then after immediately declaring everything was a problem or unhealthy offered that only their shoes was the proper solution.

[–] • 0 pt

Absolutely nothing.

[–] • 0 pt (edited )

At the very least it gives people some ideas on other approaches to solving a problem between people. There's a lot to examining things in your mind and how you react. Unlike animals we can revisit things and better understand what the threat was. Animals just become fearful of something and can't gain insight. I'd be wary of a lot of theory, but the basic talk therapy where someone is listening and you guide things naturally seems valuable, e.g. Carl Rogers.

[–] • 0 pt

"Absolutely nothin HUH Sayitagaaaain"

[–] • 0 pt

Carl Jung had some neat thoughts

[–] • 0 pt (edited )

Is there any part of modern psychology that isn't pervasively tainted with Freudian psychoanalysis? I personally have very little use for the field and I find that most of the supposedly insightful points about human behavior that psychology brings up are just as clearly explained as man's eternal struggle against his own conscience and the existence of an external, objective authority which our fallen nature seeks to reject.

Psychology is the tool used to normalize that rejection and to get people to embrace relativism.

[–] • 0 pt

Yes, has nothing to do with Freud or dreams or your sad childhood. It has been proven effective for depression and anxiety and is widely used for those conditions.

>You work with a mental health counselor (psychotherapist or therapist) in a structured way, attending a limited number of sessions. CBT helps you become aware of inaccurate or negative thinking so you can view challenging situations more clearly and respond to them in a more effective way.

>CBT can be a very helpful tool ― either alone or in combination with other therapies ― in treating mental health disorders, such as depression, post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) or an eating disorder. But not everyone who benefits from CBT has a mental health condition. CBT can be an effective tool to help anyone learn how to better manage stressful life situations.

[–] • 0 pt

Fair point. I don’t quite know what I’m looking for - perhaps a conceptual flaw that makes it easier to approach the matter and be critical?

But it seems that it’s the usual suspects, then. Relativism and discord between theory and reality.

[–] • 0 pt

As a concept, studying human behavior and understanding how people think is useful. I just believe the paradigm from which you approach the topic is all-important.

[–] • 0 pt

In your opinion, what ought the approach then be?

[–] • 0 pt

Is there any part of modern psychology that isn't pervasively tainted with Freudian psychoanalysis?

Aside from the subconscious, most of Freud's ideas are wrong and there are various kinds of therapy besides Freudian psychoanalysis. Also, there's more to psychology than therapy.

[–] • 0 pt

Yes, it's not an irredeemable field despite having many problems. If you want a good psychologist it's best to have a devout Christian one and cognitive behavioral therapy is extremely helpful for an array of issues. In the past, I thought "people need a good friend to talk to, not a therapist" but I now know people who've been helped by a therapist so now I think people need good friends and maybe a therapist. Some people are too quick to generalize their own negative experiences and condemn the whole field. Their experiences are likely valid and it's deeply unfortunate they couldn't receive the help they deserve, but it's still an irrational reaction.

[–] • 1 pt

I think it’s also a byproduct of holding severe disdain towards anything “modern” by virtue of association with current society.

Which, to be fair, is warranted. I get that you can lose out on a lot if you don’t give it a chance, but damn, it can also go south if you lower your mental barricades for just a moment.

[–] • 0 pt

Separating the psycho-physical from the higher self. Jungian is useful.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Psychology helps to overcome problems created by external sources.

Psychiatry helps to cure mental diseases.

As long as your doctor is not a jew.

[–] • 0 pt

... in which case they’ll wring you dry with nothing - if you’re lucky - to show for it.

[–] • -1 pt

They are the most psychotic and evil profession of them all and that's saying something!

They don't help victims recover from their trauma. They gaslight, drug and victim blame them into helplessness and depression.

They have done horrific harm to millions.

Sane people need not apply!

[–] • 0 pt

Clearly you have no clue what the difference between a psychiatrist & a psychologist is.

A psychiatrist treats through prescription, his goalis not to heal, simply to treat.

The laters job is to work with you and get you to develop tools to deal with your situation by yourself outside of therapy sessions.

[–] • -1 pt

What they say and what they do it not the same.

Stop being so nieve.

[–] • 1 pt

Stop being such a moron.

My father was a career psychologist who did cognitive behavioral therapy pretty much all of his career.

You have no clue what you're talking about.