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Hi guys, I've been diagnosed with ADHD as a child at one point later in life believed all the info about our brains being broken, medication is a must, etc.

Since then, I think what is going on is much deeper and doesn't even involve the brain so much as the "spirit" and while there exist many commonalities about ADHD, I don't believe it exists in the way (((science))) believes us to.

I've opted to meditate, eat well, etc. But some tendencies aren't fully absolved.

Does anyone have a diet/routines or supplements they have taken to function at their prime?

I take the odd adderrall if things require a ton of sustained effort but I hate they way they make me feel.

Ady advice goats?

Hi guys, I've been diagnosed with ADHD as a child at one point later in life believed all the info about our brains being broken, medication is a must, etc. Since then, I think what is going on is much deeper and doesn't even involve the brain so much as the "spirit" and while there exist many commonalities about ADHD, I don't believe it exists in the way (((science))) believes us to. I've opted to meditate, eat well, etc. But some tendencies aren't fully absolved. Does anyone have a diet/routines or supplements they have taken to function at their prime? I take the odd adderrall if things require a ton of sustained effort but I hate they way they make me feel. Ady advice goats?

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[–] 2 pts

Hoarders are a combination of problems, but the primary issue is that they mentally assign way too much value to their junk.

Help them assess the value realistically. First, there is the value of the item, but then there is the rent it costs to keep that item. Say you have 1,000 Sq ft and you pay $1,000 per month for it. If 500 Sq ft is covered in junk, then you are paying $500 per month to store it.

First, calculate how much you are paying to store junk. Then, pick out some of the worst eyesores and point out how much per month and per year it costs to keep it around.

The aforementioned rules are perfect for hoarders.

Also, hire a cleaning lady when they're gone. While the cleaning lady is there, throw out tons of useless shit and blame it on her.

A hoarder can't clean without help. You have to break down a few mental barriers first, while also training them what actually constitutes as "clean."

When they are ready for the talk, literally explain to them that they have a delusion that they are cleaning, but they have to recognize its been a few years and nothing is clean... just moved around.

[–] 2 pts

"Hoarders are a combination of problems, but the primary issue is that they mentally assign way too much value to their junk."

Totally it.

[–] 1 pt (edited )

"Also, hire a cleaning lady when they're gone. While the cleaning lady is there, throw out tons of useless shit and blame it on her."

We recently stripped the old shingles and repaired damaged or rotted wood. While my friend mostly napped in his bedroom, watching TV and only got involved when I needed him for signing off on paperwork I used the trash trailer to get run of stuff. The garage attic needed clearing also because the weight of junk has caused the ridge to sag and we need to repair that. One rafter actually split.

Notable things I tossed, five decent sets of snow skis with some ski boots. He doesn't ski as he is crippled years of dusty Christmas decoration his mother stored and just random broken stuff. Couple items I saved: Two life magazine from JFK inauguration and news clippings from the event. He told me I can have it. What I set aside and didn't tell him about are some we two vintage bottles from Europe. I'm guessing huge fancy whisky bottles his stepfather stored away. He ignores stuff I save in plain sight as junk. His step dad brought back a jap flag made of sik that looks like it was battle captured. I saved that and told him of it but he's not impressed. During this process I found his old yearbooks from school with records and saved them in a box. A few years back I helped him change out the deadbolts and knobs on his front door. He put the old hardware in a box on a steel cabinet. Needing a place to stash the school records and yearbooks I glanced inside the other box, saw old hardware that's been sitting there four years and traded boxes out. When he found the empty box in the recycle pile of boxes I was cutting down for the blue bin he was livid. He starts raging on and on about the loss and claims it was worth forty dollars. I point out he doesn't even have keys to the discarded door hardware and he then claims he does. I recount all the important repair work I've done while never asking for a dime. "Do you need a dead bolt some where? I'll buy new stuff. "

Nothing calms him down. Next day while paying the contractor he's still pissed off at me. The contractor tells him all the money I've saved him, reminds him how I fired the first contractor and am still covering that issue and having them investigated. The contractor was able to leave the jobsite every day while leaving his crew under my supervision. They bend a nail, I order it pulled back and done right. Woe to the guy who scuffed the new shingles. Off the job. Split repair wood? Replace it and get lectured on proper techniques. I had critical work done no one even noticed. Entry way awning was literally falling off the building and doing the splits because it ha no collar tie. Solution? Apply steel straps over ridge, jack it back up and pull rafters back together with cargo straps. Then add collar ties. Contractor insisted on using a dozen nails poorly done by his workers with that God cursed nail gun they are addicted to. I had him go get three half inch bolts which actually pulled the beams tight. Contractor also recounted how it was I who found a gas leak in the attic and pressured him to help me redo the line to his dryer in the garage. Leak was right by the vent to the kitchen stove that vented directly into the attic near the leaking joint.

This house had a fire years ago in the same spot. Obvious signs off past repairs and scorched wood.

after contractor laid this all out to him and told him how I look out for his real interests my homeowner frien came out to apologize.

[–] 0 pt

Why didn't you sell the stuff?

I have no tolerance, at all, for people who lie to me, for any reason.

[–] 1 pt

"Why didn't you sell the stuff?*

You ever try to do a yard sale for a hoarder? Before his mom died I think she was trying to do yard sales but I never saw it happen though I grew up across the street. I've. Found at least half a dozen unused garage sale signs in the garage. Things get pulled out of the piles and he starts to panic out puts them back. If he finds junk in the trash bin he starts bitching I should at least put by the curb so someone who might want it can have it. Then goes out gets whatever it is and hides it in the spare bedrooms. During attic cleanout in the garage I found a box of ladies clothes. Very old, maybe his mom's from when she was very Young. The items were handmade very attractive knitted and colorful. I know a housekeeper who checks our curb for stuff like this and we have an agreement. She uses the cheap vases I set out to put flowers in homes she services. Nope the cool stuff got taken back into the house. I recently cleaned his kitchen pantry of dated canned food from about the time his mother died. Cans rusted through and leaking. His mom tried to deal with the problem when she was alive but was unable. When she passed away it wasn't that bad as she at least didn't rummage through neighbor's trash and bring home junk. She was also a bit of a hoarder. Saved every single tie off the bread and dozens of jars. I've thrown away bins of vcr tapes of sermons. Many pounds of motivational cassettes to which there is no functional player. Believe me, most of what hoarders stuff around their property is either useless, broken, unsanitary or just not wanted by normal people. Also gobs of trashy, tacky, cheap knickknacks. Tasteless junk. Mixed in are a few cool items so I don't toss things without checking. Like the box of beautiful liquor bottles from Europe his stepdad brought home from the war. He doesn't even know about them because his focus is junk. Pun intended. Meanwhile every corner shelf and space in the house is an eyesore of cheap vases, plastic dusty flowers and tasteless knickknacks you can pic up at any yard sale if you are of that sort. I stop at yard sales but rarely buy unless it's like a very new drill I recently bought to replace the one I've worn out. $20.00 spent and gave the my old one away. Dewalt again! A new one from Lowes would cost 70.00 so I'm pleased. My friend would stash the old one in some random spot and forget about it.

"I have no tolerance, at all, for people who lie to me, for any reason."

Hoarders don't really lie. They live in a delusional mindset where they make up shit on the fly to suit the moment. To them it's not really lying. He once gave me a bag of mineral specimens his stepdad had collected. Literally told me it was a present. Well, I have no place for it and though I knew about the collection hadn't really looked at it. I told him thanks, I would go through them and think what to do with the collection. I spent a few minutes clearing a garage shelf of ripped up old grocery bags and other trash then unwrapped all the rocks and arranged them nicely on the shelf. Hmmm. Some would be useful at the university. Nothing rare but good specimens. Next day he goes on a rant about all the stuff I've thrown away. What stuff I ask. I offer to retrieve every thing from the trash bin and show him. No, that's. Not it. He's mad because I messed with the shelf. I give up and tell him I won't touch the rocks again. He calms down and then later apologizes. This is how a hoarder thinks. That clean and organized shelf triggered him. My grandfather was the same way. He packed broken household appliances into the company office till I had to squeeze by to get to the desk. When I got fed up I took it all and dumped the lot. Swept out and did a deep clean of the office that Sunday. Monday morning grandpa was outraged and screaming at me.

These sort of people are happy when you serve them scrambled eggs but will rage over the broken eggshells. Once I cleaned all the muck and trash out of the pump room basement and discovered a very old drill rusting in the slime. This basement was part of our food processing operation. Fresh out of highschool and understanding basic hygiene and food standards I was leaving no place for roaches and rats of which I found plenty. But that drill intrigued me. I took it all apart,cleaned the rust and used fine sand paper to buff the bushings smooth. I replaced the rotted power cord and reassembled it. The dang thing looked great and worked fine. Grandpa bitched me out about stuff I'd thrown out, checked the dumpster and found nothing of value so he took the drill from me. Fortunately he didn't do time cards or payroll so I was safe there. Hoarders. I've lived around them my whole life. For a time I worked as in home house care and my first assignment was cooking and cleaning for a crippled lady. County paid and I fill out a weekly report. Turns out she was a hoarder. Mixed in the trash were real treasures so you can't just toss stuff. I found old phonograph records. No big deal? They were the tube ones. No, I've never taken important valuables off people. When I've gotten fed up or just left for another job it's with only my own tools and things. That old Lady, though stored mostly trash. As usual, like all true hoarders they go through the trash. Putting her dead cats and feces on top helps deter that urge.