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aryans and their sky father god come from the black sea and conquer everywhere.

jews claim sky father god, but virtually all jewish texts we know of were written during the babylonian captivity, and those preceding it have been proven to be heavily doctored by samesaid babylonian jews: "Exodus was traditionally ascribed to Moses himself, but modern scholars see its initial composition as a product of the Babylonian exile (6th century BCE), based on earlier written and oral traditions, with final revisions in the Persian post-exilic period (5th century BCE)"

Exodus swiches the priesthood around and then places it in total control (similar to how the Catholic church stole total control over jesus): "When Esau sold the birthright of the first born to Jacob, Rashi explains that the priesthood was sold along with it, because by right the priesthood belongs to the first-born. Israel was supposed to become "a kingdom of priests and a holy nation" Exodus 19:6, but when Israel (except the Tribe of Levi) sinned in the incident of the golden calf, Moses broke the tablets containing the higher Exodus 32:19, and then returned up the mountain after making two new tablets Exodus 34:4 to receive commandments which would form the basis of the lesser law which Israel would now have to follow.[clarification needed] The lesser priesthood was given to the Tribe of Levi, which had not been tainted by this incident Exodus 32:26[5]

Moses received the priesthood under the hand of his father-in-law, Jethro, after which he spoke to the Lord via the burning bush. As a prophet, (one who speaks with God) he held this higher office within the priesthood. Aaron was ordained as the High Priest of the lesser priesthood or Aaronic Priesthood; which includes the Levitical; to parallel the lesser law the Israelites would now have to follow due to the Golden Calf incident and the subsequent revised covenant. Exodus 34:10.[citation needed][6]

Moses is referred to as a priest in Psalms 99:6, this refers to his being a prophet, which is an office within the higher Priesthood.

Aaron received the priesthood along with his children and any descendants that would be born subsequently. However, his grandson Phinehas had already been born, and did not receive the priesthood until he killed the prince of the Tribe of Simeon and the princess of the Midianites (Numbers 25:7–13). Thereafter, this lesser priesthood has remained with the descendants of Aaron."

Why would 3 zoroastrian priests 'magi' be the first to bless Jesus and predict his coming, as though they are the figures of import who best understand who he is? Jesus took the priesthood from the babylonian jews who had stolen it, and took down their monopoly. The apostles state clearly that the corruption had come from Babylon. And modern research has made it clear that the torah has been massively changed by babylonian jews, who to this day seem to hate anything to do with 'aryans'.

aryans and their sky father god come from the black sea and conquer everywhere. jews claim sky father god, but virtually all jewish texts we know of were written during the babylonian captivity, and those preceding it have been proven to be heavily doctored by samesaid babylonian jews: "Exodus was traditionally ascribed to Moses himself, but modern scholars see its initial composition as a product of the Babylonian exile (6th century BCE), based on earlier written and oral traditions, with final revisions in the Persian post-exilic period (5th century BCE)" Exodus swiches the priesthood around and then places it in total control (similar to how the Catholic church stole total control over jesus): "When Esau sold the birthright of the first born to Jacob, Rashi explains that the priesthood was sold along with it, because by right the priesthood belongs to the first-born. Israel was supposed to become "a kingdom of priests and a holy nation" Exodus 19:6, but when Israel (except the Tribe of Levi) sinned in the incident of the golden calf, Moses broke the tablets containing the higher Exodus 32:19, and then returned up the mountain after making two new tablets Exodus 34:4 to receive commandments which would form the basis of the lesser law which Israel would now have to follow.[clarification needed] The lesser priesthood was given to the Tribe of Levi, which had not been tainted by this incident Exodus 32:26[5] Moses received the priesthood under the hand of his father-in-law, Jethro, after which he spoke to the Lord via the burning bush. As a prophet, (one who speaks with God) he held this higher office within the priesthood. Aaron was ordained as the High Priest of the lesser priesthood or Aaronic Priesthood; which includes the Levitical; to parallel the lesser law the Israelites would now have to follow due to the Golden Calf incident and the subsequent revised covenant. Exodus 34:10.[citation needed][6] Moses is referred to as a priest in Psalms 99:6, this refers to his being a prophet, which is an office within the higher Priesthood. Aaron received the priesthood along with his children and any descendants that would be born subsequently. However, his grandson Phinehas had already been born, and did not receive the priesthood until he killed the prince of the Tribe of Simeon and the princess of the Midianites (Numbers 25:7–13). Thereafter, this lesser priesthood has remained with the descendants of Aaron." Why would 3 zoroastrian priests 'magi' be the first to bless Jesus and predict his coming, as though they are the figures of import who best understand who he is? Jesus took the priesthood from the babylonian jews who had stolen it, and took down their monopoly. The apostles state clearly that the corruption had come from Babylon. And modern research has made it clear that the torah has been massively changed by babylonian jews, who to this day seem to hate anything to do with 'aryans'.

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Look into the order of Melchizedek:

The basis of the Aaronic priesthood was ancestry; the basis of the priesthood of Melchizedek is everlasting life. That is, there is no interruption due to a priest's death. (Heb. 7:8,15-16,23-25)

Melchizedek is referred to again in Hebrews 5:6-10; Hebrews 6:20; Hebrews 7:1-21: "Thou art a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek"; and Hebrews 8:1.

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Simple answer -- they probably didn't. The story of the three wise men from the East is likely just folklore that has been added into the story of Jesus becuse it sounded impressive to those who inserted it. Probably there was a legend of Magi wandering around, looking for a holy baby. That's more likely than the author of the Gospel just making it up from nothing.

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The story of the three wise men from the East

The Bible doesn't say how many they were.

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There isn't any archeological evidence for the type of destruction in the levant ascribed to Joshua in the bible at the accepted date of the exodus. There is plenty subsequent to Hyksos expulsion from Egypt however. And the pharoe who expelled them was ahmose, which means brother of mose in either Hebrew or Egyptian(I can't remember which). Obviously mose is Canaanite(Hebrew) for Moses. In addition there was an Egyptian historian who flat out stated that when the Hyksos were expelled they left with 240,000 people, wandered the desert and eventually built Jerusalem.

The story of Moses floating down the river is almost identical to a much earlier version involving Sargon the great of Akkad. Obviously several thousand years of Assyrian (Akkadians) dominance of the region had massive influence over subsequent neobabylonia. So I would say its pretty likely the priests did alter the book during the exile.

Given that it's likely they altered the book during the exile, and that archeology and historians from other cultures indicate the Israelites were actually the Hyksos, it would mean that the Israelites were not enslaved but rather were the slavers. The Hyksos were a Canaanite group (biblical Hebrew language is identical to Canaanite) who went into Egypt and took over a portion of the kingdom from the inside basically through subversion and acquisition of the regions wealth. Which sounds pretty familiar. Some scholars claim the Hyksos were Hittite(aryans), but most simply call them asiatic or Canaanite. Ofc it's possible there were factions of both among them.

None of that really has to do with the magi or zarathustrians but I can say it's pretty obvious Judaism owes a pretty substantial debt to the zarathustrians as well as the Babylonians. The idea of judgement, a messiah, a lake of fire, dualism, an adversary god like Satan, and many other tenants of Judaism can traced directly to the zoroastrians whose religion preceded the captivity by several hundred years.

The bible does make it pretty clear that the Israelites were white people. David is described as ruddy. The whore of babylon is blonde, many other passages support that idea. That doesn't necessarily make them aryans tho, as the story of Noah was traditionally understood as the story of white ppl, as in jephath was father of the aryans who were white, Shem was father of the arabs and Jews who used to be white and ham was father of the Egyptians who used to be white.

Back to the magi, who knows maybe they really did know shit they shouldn't have known and we're aware of the evil plans of the sons of Shem directed against them and their cousins. And maybe God really did come to earth to judge them and warn us.

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A very thoughtful question. My take: The Jews were so corrupted that they were deaf, dumb, and blind to reality itself. Their "teachers" kept them in a state of near-total ignorance...not only from their own prophecies, but from other tools of knowledge (astrology, etc.). Because of this situation, they literally couldn't see Jesus coming...or recognize him once he got there. So the magi were used by the Father to set the wheels in motion.

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Jesus could not have been the messiah, he did not fulfill the prophecy.

  • He was not Emmanuel: Born to a married woman, but not the son of her husband, he was a bastard, steeped in sin from the moment of his birth, to make things worse, even by the accounts of his own disciples, he committed sins that would have disqualified him, such as dishonoring his mother, and envying that which belonged to others.

  • He was not a direct descendant of the line of King David: his genologies all agree on one point, that the man who raised Jesus, Joseph, husband of Mary, was a direct descendant of David, but Mary was not, therefore he could not be the messiah (James, brother of Jesus, however, could have been the messiah)

  • He was ignorant of the law: the messiah would know the law inside and out, Jesus was tested by the pharisees to see if he could be a good judge, which would have been a step towards him being recognized as the messiah, but he failed the test. First, he failed in knowing the trick, which was that both the woman who committed adultery, and the man she laid with in doing so were to be put to death together. Second, he failed in knowing the difference between the forgivable sins all jews committed, and the deadly sins, which are only put away with death sentences, by making a comparison of the sins of the crowd to the sins of the adulterous woman, and demanding absolute cleanliness as a requirement for the law to be observed, he had shown a profound ignorance of the law. He was given his chance, and he had failed it more spectacularly than the judges could have expected, thinking on this, his anger at the pharisees seems more like the rage of an american idol contestant when the judges start laughing at their terrible performance. Makes a lot more sense now that he went from praising the pharisees as authoritative and benevolent leaders to be obeyed, to cursing them out as liars and deceivers who reject the messiah before them, and of course the hate was mutual from that point, Jesus was now leading a schism that undermined their power, making it harder for them to do their jobs, and making the jewish people divided and thus weaker (bad thing to be, living in the lands of a people you consider to be your enemy).

  • He was born in the wrong location to be the messiah: By his own admission, Jesus was famously born in the manger of Bethlehem, a far cry from where the messiah was predicted to have had to have been born. (this one I'm less sure about)

  • He was bent on dividing the jews, when the messiah was supposed to unite them all.

  • There's more to the prophecy, traits that Jesus didn't possess that would make him ineligible for fulfilling that role, it's ironic that two of the requirements he botched could have been fulfilled by claiming he was the son of his father, and not of God, he wouldn't be a bastard, and thus still immaculate, and he would have been a direct descendant of King David, if he had not done the whole "writing in the sand" bit, he would have aced the first test of the messiah, instead of failing it.

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Found the jew

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half way through reading his comment, fuck this kike bullshit

scroll down, see comment...they're not sending their best

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Ah yes, the Hebraic counter point.

Any laws broken by him were the laws of the pharisees, not the laws of God as given to Moses. Those laws are inverted in phariseeism, because yids choose not to apply them to gentiles.

I'm fairly amused that a pharisee would state being a basard means your steeped in sin. Judah's only offspring that passed on genes to a subsequent generation was a bastard. So your entire line is bastardized and steeped in sin according to your judgement.

Mary was a direct descendent of David. The genologies are contained in the NT.

Jesus was not ignorant of the law. He simply understood them to be the laws men, not the law of God and thus irrelevant.

I'm not aware of any prophecies regarding the location of his birth.

Gods law is that one who lives by the sword must be killed by the sword. Jews have a long history of creating and exploiting divisions among others to take control. God dished out a double portion to them in accordance with his law. Then he destroyed the city and allowed them to be enslaved by their rabbis as punishment. This is justice.

The bible specifically states "you are all sons of God". So if Jesus was incorrect in stating that, so is the bible.

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How about all the prophecies Jesus fulfilled??

Chuck Missler has a dissertation on the probability that Jesus was NOT the messiah. He postulates that the odds of Jesus not being the messiah are less than 1 in (all the molecules of the universe) to several powers.

It's a fun watch.

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To get to the other side?

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When you say 3 Zoroastrians are you referring to the 3 wise men that gave frankincense, myrrh & gold to the new born king? If so how do you know there were 3? People always say 3 wise men but if you read scripture no where does it state 3. A common misconception. Just like people think that Adam and Eve ate an apple. There is no proof that it was an apple, only a fruit. Again concerning Noah, his ark and the animals that boarded. Not two of every one but rather 2 of the unclean and 7 of the clean. Also 7 of the fowl, male and HIS female.

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religion is a method to control humanity.

The truth is God requires no worship

you'll know God's voice when you hear it.

You will then know what is real

Pray

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'Jesus' is fake and gay

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All of christianity was taken from other religions.

The monothestic god was Aten, the sun god of Ankhenaten.

The story of Lucifer bringing forbidden wisdom to humans through Eve, the second woman, and then humanity being punished by God for her taking up the offer, is the same as the story of Prometheus who brought forbidden wisdom to humans, then the gods decided to punish humanity by getting the first woman, Pandora, to open up a box of sins.

The reason Lucifer inhabits the body of a serpent is because of the Egyptian god Apophis, who takes the form of a snake that eats the sun, then is driven off by Bastet, the Goddess who takes the form of a cat, giving rise to the sun's return.

The great flood was a story that was taken directly from the Epic of G-G-Garugamesh! (come to Sakura-con for gaybang!), the story of moses was heavily inspired by the stories of Ishtar and her curses upon those who repeatedly defied her.

Lots of the old testament was taken from other pre-existing religions of the region.

New Testament is included, lots of the parts of the story of Jesus were inspired by similar themes found in other pre-existing religions of the region, but also a lot of the stories may be traced back to various accounts of a real person who existed.

One guy who claimed to be the messiah out of many who made similar claims in the same time frame, he was one of many who claimed to be the prophesied savior of the jews.

Jesus also claimed that the world was ending soon, hence why his teachings were marxist bullshit, his religion was never supposed to outlast the period where it was a doomsday cult, the world was going to end shortly after his death, so there was no need to hope for the future, if Jesus were to see that his cult had grown as much as it did and lasted so long after his death, he would likely be in shock from the surprise, though he would also be taken aback at how long the world had lasted, since he was certain that he was living in the end of days.

A lot of the messiah claimants were killed, mostly because they had been leading religious schisms among the jewish people, the authorities of any church-state will want to crack down on those who undermine their authority by going their own way.

Messiahs coming back from the dead was a standard trait, Jesus resurrection was one of many, and only holds such sway today because we have no knowledge about the others, rebuking the jewish authorities is also something that comes standard, not just in the case of messiah claimants, but also in the case of anyone who orchestrates a schism, Martin Luther, for example, he condemned the christian authorities (the catholic church was the universal church, basically synonymous with christianity in the area) but he was still a committed christian.

Kind of lines up with how christ could hate the jewish authorities, but love the jews and the jewish laws and the jewish holidays, judaism, it's laws and traditions, and the jewish people were still very dear to him, even though he was challenging the leadership associated with them.

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What do you think about the claims in this video? (< 5 min)

Could similarities to prior (or contemporary) pagan religious beliefs possibly strengthen the case?

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Many people believe that because a religion has "borrowed" much of its foundations from previous faiths, that somehow makes it less valid. I believe the opposite is true.

We see the same kind of behavior in art and music. Painters and musicians always borrow ideas from previous generations. They then incorporate them into their own art...and deliver it in a way that is pertinent and understandable to the people of that time. Elvis Presley lifted much of his style from black musicians in the South. He then incorporated that into his own music...and delivered his message in a way that billions of people could relate to.

By doing this, he didn't make his own music less valid. He simply took what worked in a previous time, and modified the message to fit his own time.

Such is the way of humanity. Any healthy society will take what works from previous eras and incorporate it into their own. Religion is no different. So saying Christianity is a composite of many previous faiths, or that it is derived from Egypt, does nothing to discredit it, or its main character.

The true test of any religion is: do the teachings apply to the current state of affairs? Does the faith resonate with its believers? Does it contribute to a net positive for society?