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Background: My Polish wife comes from a family where everybody lives 90 to 100 years. Very healthy and long lived people.

Now, I am a Type 2 diabetic since age 15. For the past 3 years, my wife is suddenly diabetic. There is no diabetes in her entire extended family. Never have been, not ever.

Her sister was an RN nurse for thirty years before getting breast cancer and being forced to retire. Nobody in that extended family has ever had breast cancer.

This got me wondering about how one acquires a 'hereditary' disease. Is it really hereditary, diet, environmental or could it be from exposure? My mom was diabetic. Did I inherit it (common wisdom) or could it be transmissible? Nobody believes that one catches diabetes. Same with breast cancer. But what if we're wrong?

The nurse dealt with cancer patients for decades. I dealt with a diabetic mother my entire childhood. My wife dealt with me for 25 years. I am probably mistaken, but I do find these anomalies to be noteworthy.

So my question for all of you is: Do any of you ever see indications of diseases transmitted inexplicably to people by exposure? Keep in mind, everything most people believe about health comes from a (((possibly biased))) medical industry.

What say you?

Background: My Polish wife comes from a family where everybody lives 90 to 100 years. Very healthy and long lived people. Now, I am a Type 2 diabetic since age 15. For the past 3 years, my wife is suddenly diabetic. There is no diabetes in her entire extended family. Never have been, not ever. Her sister was an RN nurse for thirty years before getting breast cancer and being forced to retire. Nobody in that extended family has ever had breast cancer. ------------------------------------------- This got me wondering about how one acquires a 'hereditary' disease. Is it really hereditary, diet, environmental or could it be from exposure? My mom was diabetic. Did I inherit it (common wisdom) or could it be transmissible? Nobody believes that one catches diabetes. Same with breast cancer. But what if we're wrong? The nurse dealt with cancer patients for decades. I dealt with a diabetic mother my entire childhood. My wife dealt with me for 25 years. I am probably mistaken, but I do find these anomalies to be noteworthy. So my question for all of you is: Do any of you ever see indications of diseases transmitted inexplicably to people by exposure? Keep in mind, everything most people believe about health comes from a (((possibly biased))) medical industry. What say you?

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[–] • 6 pts

Are you obese? How often do you exercise? Do you make your own food or do you eat out of packages? Three critical questions that can lead to type 2 diabetes in anyone

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

I have been an organic grower for twenty years. Good stuff. even get grass fed beef here. When I turned diabetic I was a skinny kid in Cajun Country. Diabetes is common in my family but never in my wife's. And suddenly, POOF! she's Type 2 diabetic. The question is, can it be by 'exposure' after all? Is the 'heredity' belief not always the key factor in supposedly hereditary diseases? Just pondering, just asking.

[–] • 3 pts

Your situation poses an interesting thought. What if Type 2 diabetes could be transmitted and is not just a condition but a communicable disease. Crazier things have happened.

[–] [deleted] • 4 pts

And cancer? MS and MD? We believe things. Progress is illusory, as today's certainties are tomorrows laughably disprovable assertions.

[–] • 1 pt

Did she have a child? Gestational diabetes can lead to type 2 post-birth. It's possible your doctors weren't too cautious in this regard.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Wife had 3 kids long ago. Our granddaughter is 24 and married. Damn, I feel so old.. cuz I am.

Some friendly advice: Don't get any older. It's an experiment that didn't go so well for me. Stay young!

[–] • 1 pt

You answered the last and least important of the three questions. I think we’re done here!

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[–] • 2 pts

Both my parents had cancer. My mom had breast cancer and beat it. My dad passed away last year from glioblastoma, brain cancer. I'm cancer free but maybe one day it will be my demise. I remember the docs telling us, me and my two siblings, that it is not hereditary. I don't think they really know.

[–] • 1 pt

There’s this blog I can’t remember the name of it but apparently the OTC drug fenbendazole which is marketed as a canine dewormer is batting 1000 for beating cancers. This is all based on anecdotal stories

[–] • 2 pts

You "inherited" it from your mom by adopting her way of eating. Your wife caught it from you because you infected her with an American diet.

Three books you should read immediately: "Eat to Live", and "Fasting for health" by Dr Joel Fuhrman, and "Sugar, Salt, Fat" by Michael Moss

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Hey, good info!

In my 20's nd 30's, I did serious fasting, based on the books by Dr. Arnold Ehret. The diabetes was controllable but never eliminated. https://www.amazon.com/Rational-Fasting-Arnold-Ehret/dp/1884772013/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=arnold+ehret&qid=1621887950&s=books&sr=1-5

My wife and I are organic growers and eat pretty reasonably. Her getting diabetes was so unexpected.

[–] • 2 pts

What causes cells to go mutant and become cancerous? That is (literally) a multi billion dollar question.

In the past the belief was that it was hereditary, diet, and environmental. But, we are now learning how key the roll of viruses are in cancer.

Some (like cervical cancer) are clear. But, most other cancers, we really have no clue if there is a viral trigger link and which virus triggers the cancer.

So - to answer the question - yes, there is a trigger thru viruses for some cancers, but little is known on this topic.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

While human cells are small, they are very complex things, like a whole city onto themselves. Living as part of a multi-trillion cell organism has its perks. You don't have to defend yourself and food is given to you, all in exchange for you performing your function. Think of it as an ancient covenant: the cell gives up some freedoms in exchange for safety and security. But what happens when one side breaks that covenant? What happens when that safety and security is absent? The cell becomes cancerous as a last ditch effort to survive. It says 'fuck you' to the covenant and starts doing what all life does: it uses the resources in its environment to replicate. Our body has defenses against this but they are not perfect. Once in a while they don't stop the cancer in time. Live a healthy life and don't break the covenant.

[–] • 2 pts (edited )

Have any of you read about the cancer that was or still is attacking the Tasmanian devil population? It’s quite interesting. They have a form of cancer that is like a skin rash that turns into a tumor. Totally contagious and that they pass it along to one another when they touch. Researchers expected it to possibly kill them all off, (awful little creatures) but that was years ago and I have not followed up on the situation. It would be interesting to see what happened to them. I don’t see why human cancer couldn’t mutate into a stronger form and start doing the same thing, like butt cancer, another commenter mentioned.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Yes, Tasmanian Devils are having it rough. But might the actual vector be fungal? I don't know.

Let's ask an expert: https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=c54SvkgQ04A

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[–] • 2 pts

Type 2 Diabetes is entirely acquired through diet. You can have a genetic predisposition, but it's always about the amount of starch and sugar you are eating. If you switch to a ketogenic diet (which one doesn't matter much) and actually stick to it, the diabetes will go away.

You may have such a strong disposition that it's going to come back whenever you eat any amount of starch or sugar, but while you are eliminating those, the diabetes will go away.

Not discounting gut flora and epigenetics (both are huge factors that we are just barely getting to the heart of) but for diabetes specifically its diet.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Very well recognized understanding on the matter. What brings me to post is that there is zero diabetes or cancer in my wife's family tree, but here we are. Just my speculations.

My daughter in New Jersey works for a prestigious animal hospital and tells me how often the pets and owners share medical situations, and most of them feed their pets higher end pet foods, not scraps. So, who knows!

Am getting many comments here and elsewhere on these matters. As for myself, I do not ever trust medical professionals about human health.

[–] • 2 pts

Quite a few cancers are caused by viruses. It’s basically certain but can be hard to prove absolutely so it’s not necessarily advertised. Forms of cancer can therefore be as transferable as the viruses that cause them.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Yes, I agree. My wife's family tree has never had diabetes or cancers. Then out of the blue, there is one of each. So strange.

[–] • 1 pt

Interesting idea, but too many variables. Could be issues caused by diet, environment, a bit of both, etc.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

I'm autistic, (Asperger) so I see things a bit differently. I ponder the imponderables and often come to oddball conclusions. It's how I roll.

Nobody I have ever heard about has ever made this medical observation. I just threw it out to see if anybody finds it happening in their world.

(Am expecting the usual "fake and gay" retorts. I get a lot of that.)

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

I mean it's possible, but it's much more likely something in our Western diets just like the occasional soda could be the cause. There's no telling what kind of substances we could be ingesting from people that run the various food and drink industries with bad intentions and ill-will towards humanity and the West.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Man, you really get it. If only drinking sodas was our biggest concern! I'd swim in it!

[–] • 1 pt

Nobody I have ever heard about has ever made this medical observation.

Lol Dr McDougall's entire schtick is just that

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Never heard of him, but I will certainly look into him and his ideas. Thank you for this!

[–] • 0 pt

look into the "Terran" theory in virology

illness is not what you think it is

Edit: might be terrain theory, i've always seen it as terran but you know people and fucking speling these days

[–] • 1 pt

It’s “Terrain Theory” the gist of it is that you can’t catch a virus for the same reason that if I had cancer you couldn’t “catch” it from me because it’s an autoimmune disease.

Viruses are an autoimmune response of the body

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Yes, Terrain. I've read about it here on Poal. Poal is such a treasure. I find some great people and information here.

[–] • 1 pt

Shit. I hate to be the one to tell you this. Male microchimmerism. The bible says to flee formication, why? Because the male seed is lodged in the female for her entire life. Changing her and her children's dna. The reason we get the thousand cock stare. The gene that makes you succeptable to diabetes went into her.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Hey, thank you for this.

Did NOT see this coming. Just wow! Must look into this further.

[–] • 1 pt

Wait it gets better. A man's DNA gets lodged behind a woman's ears and eyes to be used later. When white parents have a black baby it might be from Tyrone's nut. Not from cheating. Women absorb your immune system pattern, physical makeup pattern, whatever makes her kids better. That's why a hedonistic society guarantees that you are a cuck. And the exact reason I flee fornication like the bible says. I'm not paying for and raising tiny Tyrone. Fuck women they're dumb and have no morals.

[–] • 1 pt

My story is nearly the same, except my best friends are the ones with diabetes , and now I have it since I turned 40 some years ago.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Thanks for the comment!

My mom's diabetes kicked in at age 35. Mine at age 15. Just a few years after she'd been diagnosed.

I say - fungal. But that's just me.

[–] • 1 pt

Mine appears to be a reset of the normal levels, jardiance is the only thing that drops my levels, and if you see what isn't does and how it works, it changes the bodies "good" threshold.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Jardiance commercials seem kinda scary to me. Will look further into it. Thank you!

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