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arguments for or against?

arguments for or against?

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Before Christ, salvation was attained through burning animals as offerings. Christ took on the burden of the sins of humanity. He is the Son of God. He changed our entire relationship with God.

The gift of Christ is freedom from sin. People get caught up in the details so much. You can never prove every detail and satisfy human doubt about events long behind us. Especially with satan sowing that doubt constantly.

What is important is our relationship with God. The devil has no relationship with God. Like his evil followers here on earth, they are all jealous of our relationship with God. They will say or do anything to wreck that.

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I'm not going to punch on Christians. I'll never understand their delusional fixation with the desert jew.

But anyone with half an identitarian brain can see that Christianity is our NPC/Tard wrangler, and a massive social control vector.

Do not remove the NPCs belief that god is on their side. Acknowledge that the room-temp peoples and midwits need it.

And if they aren't drinking our kool-aid, they will drink the enemies.

The problem is that the modern christcuck will die on his knees, and believes god will do any and all work. That is what must change.

[–] 2 pts

Belief in God is a call to action. You have no idea the red lines that true Christians are waiting for. Before that red line is crossed, we prepare. It is prophecied that evil will completely control the world. Check. It is prophecied that when we are required to receive a mark or leave society or be murdered, WE RESIST. That time is fast upon us.

Additionally, your dismissal of Christianity is an admitted EGO PROBLEM for yourself rather than a spiritual problem for us. You say it yourself. You refuse to dig deeper bc you've never had to. You appeal to your humanistic egotistical sin nature to sate your thirst. Bad move bro.

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You are so right, my good fren. It's truly my ego.

You have no idea the red lines that true Christians are waiting for

Do you? Just don't die on your knees buddy.

[–] 8 pts

If it wasn’t real, you wouldn’t have posed the question in the first place. The concept exists in your mind: therefore it’s real.

If you mean to ask if Christianity is the one true faith, that’s another question altogether.

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I was coming to pist this, but when I see you post it you seem like a nigger. Back off, he was asking an honest question in a thoughtless way. You don't have to pick on him about it.

[–] 4 pts

Good sir, I’ll have you know that I’m the most eloquent and philosophical nigger that ever did nig.

[–] 2 pts

I have noticed. And you're pretty funny sometimes too. For a nigger.

[–] [deleted] 5 pts (edited )

After years and years of looking into it, all I can say is that there is a tribe bent on taking over the entire world through subversion and degenerecy. Christianity is basically an opposition to this way of thinking and those people. The guy who christianity is based on was one of them and outed them for their evil designs. He was both their rightful king and spiritual leader, he called them out for using their leven to rob widows and for selling their people to the Romans for some silver and they got him crucified for it.

These people were so crazy that even though God had rescued them many times, they became so evil that they left him no choice but to destroy them, three separate times. Yet the mortal wound healed and now we live in their dystopia because we forgot what they did to their own king 2000 years ago.

[–] 2 pts

No.

The jews invented both Islam and Christianity to destroy all tribal memory/ historical knowledge contrary to the now implemented "official narrative". Anyone who follows these beliefs has been deceived away from the ways of their Fathers and are separated from the hero epic of their own people. Spiritual energy and warfare to curse and degenerate ourselves from our Natural State.

Return Home White Man

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I don't even care any more. The Christian values based on how white American Christians use them are good.

The problem is the fucking entire thing is a sandnigger Arab religion that has absolutely nothing to do with white Europeans and white Americans. It's insane we let this happen the Irish my kin are particularly embarrassing when it comes to cucking to this sand nigger shit

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The problem is the fucking entire thing is a sandnigger Arab religion that has absolutely nothing to do with white Europeans and white Americans.

I see this posted all the time, and it's complete bullshit. Yes, Christianity started out as a rejection of and rebellion against Judaism, but when it moved to Rome, it became the religion of the Romans. Over the following two thousand years, white Europeans shaped Christianity into what it is today. Christianity is wholly the white man's religion.

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What did the Romans believe in prior to the forced conversion at the hands of Constantine and how long did Whites believe it compared to Christianity. A timeline unknown. Christianity is an invented slave religion fomented for the sole cause to destroy Rome and the decline of our people. Kike worship is not the way of our Fathers.

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Problem is the Christians always go back and quote from the God damn old testament aka the jew holy book for fuck sake.

How can you not think of it as Judea Christian then old and new are in the same God damn book

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All of Europe is embarrassed when it comes to being ruled by that religion and (mostly) losing their own religion, but who knows if it was more good than bad or more bad than good.

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Yep it’s real, will very much blow your mind once you realize it. Unfortunately there’s not any sure fire arguments because arguing is never how anyone became Christian.

Just like how Jesus didn’t come to give out infinite knowledge or supreme logic, but to bring about atonement and spiritual rebirth, the means of implementing Christianity isn’t a matter of knowledge so much as a matter of being spiritually unmade.

But yeah it’s real and for what it’s worth the missing link for me that really filled everything in after I became Christian was understanding what exactly the Holy Spirit was and what it does to you. But there’s no way to fully appreciate what that means it without having it happen. Almost like you have a spiritual organ that you’re born with but isn’t being used until it is finally activated but it’s only activated by this specific outside force that is bigger than you in ways beyond just size, and also happens to have a mind, will, emotions, an entire person that is infinite yet somehow also very specific and knowable.

Many people are running around with a dead spirit organ and only spiritual rebirth can give them an active one, this starts with joining Christ in death (which frees you from the inheritance of Adam) allowing the rebirth into the lineage of Christ to be possible. This also happens to be the only eternal lineage, hence everlasting life.

So Christianity is fundamentally about joining an entirely new family lineage in order to get a new inheritance, eternal life instead of eternal death, in a very literal sense, and currently both of these “bloodlines” happen to share the earth at the same time, and people are constantly being reborn every day (the Kingdom of God has never lost any numbers).

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Sure, there are several religious groups that adhere to a faith based on Jesus being the Christ.

There is a spiritual reality based in Jesus (Yah'shua if you prefer Hebrew) being the Son of God and Messiah (Christ in Greek). The Christian religious groups interact with this reality in minor degrees. Some of them more so than others and some of them pretty much not at all (Catholics for example).

The practical, behavioral stuff in the Bible is pretty straightforward. When it says not to steal, it means don't take stuff that isn't yours. When you move into the realm of abstract, conceptual things and things pertaining to the afterlife, this is where things were made into a huge disaster of errors. Ultimately, all of this is interpreted and rooted in Greek philosophical and pagan thought that made its way into Rome and ultimately all of Europe. According to the Christian and even Jewish view, God first made contact and got established with people in the near east. who spoke Hebrew. There were many teachings and writings, but only a few ended up becoming scripture. These scriptures had an official Greek translation in the 3rd century B.C.

With an official Greek version of scriptures mostly from Hebrew, this established Hebrew-to-Greek translation standards. So for example the Hebrew word sheol (used as a place dead people go) was paired up with the Greek word hades (used as a place dead people go). Many foolish people have felt compelled to dig up everything related to such a Greek word instead of acknowledging that it is simply a counterpart for sheol. The Hebrew-speaking people of the near east did not believe in Greek mythology and probably had no exposure to Greek philosophy either. You can infer a little based on why they chose this Greek word instead of that, but ultimately, to figure out what Hebrew-speakers were talking about, you need to investigate Hebrew terms and thought and culture. Even if such a thing is later expressed in Greek, it is not enough to study the Greek. The history and foundation are all in Hebrew, and this goes back over 1000 years.

Ultimately, out of the Greek background a heaven and hell paradigm was established with an overemphasis on the afterlife. The Catholic church decided to include purgatory and this made the belief palatable. The protestants rejected Catholic practices and authority, but did not do a good job of exiting the philosophies and theology of the Catholic church. So Bible-reading protestants did not find any apparent purgatory, so they discarded it. This resulted in the messed up theology where it's all about heaven and hell, and most people are going to hell for an eternity. This results in a version of God where he is an insane torture monster that is going to (according to typical Christian perspectives) condemn most people to an eternity in hell based on what they did in a finite lifetime. If you get into scripture, you will see people as being depicted as spiritually deaf, blind, and dumb and ultimately only God can save them from this condition by means of enabling them to see and receive Christ, something they can't do on their own. Although, God is going to hold them responsible for failing to receive Christ, though and condemn them to an eternity of burning.

According to a typical Christian, this life determines where you spend eternity. According to king Solomon, life is vanity. I only recently realized how those two things are not consistent with each other. David and the psalmists felt compelled to sing songs that frequently mention God saving them from trouble in this life. They do not sing about going to a wonderful place for an eternity and don't feel compelled to sing about how bad people are going to burn for an eternity either. In fact the Hebrew language doesn't even have a word for eternal or eternity. According to a certain rabbi, to communicate that you would have to say "without end." Of course there are words being translated into forever and eternal and all that should not be.

I believe this is enough for now.

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Against: All religions are made up hooplah to keep the simpletons from misbehaving.

For: How else are we going to keep the simpletons from misbehaving?

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For: Religions give fixed moral values. Not the communist "the end justifies the means" values.

Against: Churches relativise these moral values and make them fluid until the values are no more moral at all.

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"religion" is a latin word which means "return to bondage". "religare" to bind. "religio" obligation, bond, reverence.

People demand religion. They insist on being told what to do and how to live.

Maybe not the best place to ask this, Poal's religion is white skin.

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Uh if anything it is the western mind which happens to belong to people with white skin.

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Is OP a nigger? Let's discuss that.

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