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So I live in Oregon, shit is getting wild, you all know.

Looking for a decent pistol to buy for just overall use. I do go camping alone and want more safety.

Our state is trying to be weird about guns top so yeah, some guidance would be appreciated!

So I live in Oregon, shit is getting wild, you all know. Looking for a decent pistol to buy for just overall use. I do go camping alone and want more safety. Our state is trying to be weird about guns top so yeah, some guidance would be appreciated!

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He can learn. Keep the 9 mm conversion NIB until he does.

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So, you think that for a new shooter, it's a better plan to spend $600 on a G23, another $175 for a conversion barrel (which no one has in stock anyway), a set of .40 S&W magazines, another set of 9mm magazines, a supply of .40 S&W, another supply of 9mm, all because... reasons?

Don't listen to gun doofuses. Get a full sized G17, get magazines and ammo to run in it, and get started. The only thing you get out of .40S&W is an empty wallet and wrist aches. Take that money and practice with more 9mm.

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I found it in stick with a google search, the worst search for guns. Limp wristed poorfag.

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I have plenty of money, because I don't waste it on gimmicks.

Seriously, .40 FBI is where you put your money? When did you start trusting glowfags?