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I am recently single. Relatively high income but white european living in Midwest.

All mainstream dating (Tinder, etc) are absolute trash. I thought the Midwest was home to trad wives, but all I saw on online dating was fats, retards, single moms, tattoos and sluts. I deleted the app because I know it’s just another trap.

So that being said, how then does dating work these days? If I want to start a family, what can I do to find a decent, attractive, non-whore who won’t divorce me in 5 years and take everything?

I’m starting to think that it may be better getting a surrogate and just being a single dad. Women in the US seem to be absolutely fucked.

I am recently single. Relatively high income but white european living in Midwest. All mainstream dating (Tinder, etc) are absolute trash. I thought the Midwest was home to trad wives, but all I saw on online dating was fats, retards, single moms, tattoos and sluts. I deleted the app because I know it’s just another trap. So that being said, how then does dating work these days? If I want to start a family, what can I do to find a decent, attractive, non-whore who won’t divorce me in 5 years and take everything? I’m starting to think that it may be better getting a surrogate and just being a single dad. Women in the US seem to be absolutely fucked.

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[–] 5 pts

Grocery stores, coffee shops, gyms, work etc... Find a social hobby and seek excellence. The woman will be there. You're going to have to cold approach women though.

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

NOT gyms. Leave the women alone at the gym.

[–] 1 pt

100% agree - Do not poach women when they're trying to exercise.

You can speak to them outside of the gym but they're at the gym for a purpose which should remain their primary focus.

[–] 0 pt

You can absolutely pick good women up at a gym. Just don't be a creep.

[–] 2 pts

Creep: someone who is unattractive and not wealthy.

[–] 0 pt

Yes, if they initiate. Otherwise, absolutely do not engage.

[–] 0 pt

Creep: anyone who does not have 10/10 looks