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Would we still have the Sistine Chapel, the Notre Dame? Would Michelangelo still be as famous? A lot of classical music was created by composers that were inspired by their Christian faith, would classical music still sound the same?

Not a religious debate.

I was just listening to St Matthews Passion by Bach and it made me think of how many things I appreciate about our culture that are inspired by Christianity. How different would our culture be if the Church wasn't such a major patron of arts?

Would we still have the Sistine Chapel, the Notre Dame? Would Michelangelo still be as famous? A lot of classical music was created by composers that were inspired by their Christian faith, would classical music still sound the same? Not a religious debate. I was just listening to St Matthews Passion by Bach and it made me think of how many things I appreciate about our culture that are inspired by Christianity. How different would our culture be if the Church wasn't such a major patron of arts?

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Were we successful because we were Christian? Or because we were White? Rome was specifically not Christian, and was the advanced wonder-culture of the ancient world, and that all came to an end when they became Christian.

Are there cultures who achieved what we did after becoming Christian? Mexico maybe? I don’t know enough about Mexico to know if they have any shining cultural examples that happened after they converted to Christianity, but I think that would be a strong argument if they did.

Personally I think the west was successful despite Christianity, not because of it.