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People born in the USA, whom I meet on the internet and in real life can proud of incredibly about their nation. Especially on the internet I often see that word: "nation"

I was not born in a country founded by nomadic people. The country I live in has a very long history, a deep culture and a national consciousness. However, the two definitions I mentioned in the previous sentence don't exist in Americans, but there is a national consciousness.

So what makes "American"s a nation? For Americans, how do you describe yourself with the definition of nation?

People born in the USA, whom I meet on the internet and in real life can proud of incredibly about their nation. Especially on the internet I often see that word: "nation" I was not born in a country founded by nomadic people. The country I live in has a very long history, a deep culture and a national consciousness. However, the two definitions I mentioned in the previous sentence don't exist in Americans, but there is a national consciousness. So what makes "American"s a nation? For Americans, how do you describe yourself with the definition of nation?

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You need to understand We The People see ourselves distinctly from our government. All real Americans hold disdain for government as a necessary evil. Trust but verify type abusive relationship.

A nation means a tribe of people. Literally America is no longer a nation. But propaganda hides this revelation from the group consciousness. Most are oblivious.

The American flag is flown because it's a symbol of freedom and liberty. The American people do not see it associated with government except in military or official government use.

America has a rich history of pulling people out of poverty like no other country on the planet. Helping others in distress or need.

As a white nation, no nation has done more to uplift the world.

There exist no nation other than America who has supported human rights. These were penned as the bill of rights. It's why the last domino hasn't fallen yet.

America's greatness is the reason it is the last stand.

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I like your user name, that is the exact description I use on certain days, they are very peaceful.

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All real Americans hold disdain for government as a necessary evil. Trust but verify type abusive relationship.

Done in one!

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Yes, usa which destroyed socialism, have to tolerate a change in ethnic distiribution in this century, but your people wanted it.

I agree the human rights issue but in the other hand you can ask about human rights to iraq, syria, vietnam or afghanistan. Thanks a lot to freeeeedooom

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Far from it. The US is struggling to resist socialism. It certainly is not destroyed.

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Even in poor Cuba where your government silenced with many embargos?

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Not xinjiang, its east turkestan autonomous region

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I'm really surprised that you responded to this. Good for you (either that or the ccp changed their policy.)

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hahaha, i guess im a cheeky turkish

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lol. Bravo. Transparent shill is transparent.

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Every other country uses the metric system. The US went to the moon and back a couple of times. Millions of people from all over the world come to the US, the vast majority breaking US immigration laws. Some paying $$$ to human smugglers, some dying trying to cross rivers and oceans in flimsy floating contraptions. Ask them what's so great about the USA.

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I dont have a goal dish on America, but how can those who clearly support terrorist supporters such as antifa be disturbed by the refugees in their own countries?

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Not every one supports or approves of them. Corrupt politicians and mega-corporations are supporting them. Many of the people I know would be happier if they sent all the refugees and illegal immigrants to the cities the tolerate antifa and blm rioting and burning their cities. Hopefully it won't be too much longer before the pendulum swings back and they are brought to justice.

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The media is really hypocritical, but the bad part is that they are far ahead of the propagandic eastern media. + this is an alt right site, im writing knowing that everyone here was thinking about the american state that one day it would find the true way. everyone thinks of their own country.

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It used to be that the US gave an equal opportunity to everybody. This is no longer true. Presently, whites and Christians are being discriminated against. Men have been discriminated against for some time Niggers are being given a massively unfair advantage in society. The thing that made America unique is gone.

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200 years is plenty enough time to develop a culture and national consciousness. You had to have been here to feel the spirit of liberty and white American culture prior to it being completely destroyed by jews.

Obviously now no one is proud to be American, because we let ourselves to be conquered by jews niggers mexicans chinese and whoever else greedy retards let in.

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You live in a nomadic country, is there a definition you can say that who is the real American? All the ethnic structures you mentioned are part of your country

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Long answer incoming.

I think that this used to be more clear, but I do understand the confusion. As an American, this is my view of American nationality, and why it is harder for people to define now:

I think there are a few things that make a nation - a people who identify as one united group, with a shared heritage, shared history, shared culture, and the desire/ability to rule themselves in some capacity. Of course, that does not currently describe U.S. citizens very well.

However, it once did. It is easy to call America a nomad country, but only because its formation is so recent. Look at Germany, for example - a couple millenia ago, these people were different Germanic tribes that, while related, considered themselves separate. Even a few centuries ago, German lands made up several different states. They were descended from tribes that previously inhabited different lands, and migrated there for various reasons. There was a time when modern Germans' ancestors would not be one ethnicity inhabiting German lands... and yet the Germans are obviously a nation.

It is the same with the early Americans. America originally only allowed free White people to become citizens. This was a people made up of related peoples with a related history - Europeans. They shared a European-descended culture with some unique cultural traits regarding stances toward monarchy, self-governance, and so on. Over time, they had growing uniqueness of various language, religious, and art nuances and styles. They had historical narratives unique to their ideas of themselves. They lived in one area and wanted to rule themselves for their interests, as one separate people.

Although a relatively recent formation, I think it was clear that they fit the definition of "nation". I am grateful for what they built, and am proud to be part of that lineage and culture. This is what I mean when I say that I am proud to be an American.

However, I recognize that the American people have been occupied by powers that are not American, by the definition I have given. I recognize that, without the consent of the American people, many foreign peoples and cultures have been taken into U.S. lands and officially made part of the U.S. citizenry. In that sense, the U.S. is no longer a nation, but rather an empire. When I go south and see Mexican enclaves, or into the ghetto and see black battlefields, or look at the structures of social power and see Israeli colonizers and puppets, I do not see my nation, although they are all U.S. citizens. From the outside, it must look like it doesn't mean anything to be an American. But the American nation still exists. We are conquered and suppressed and they are slowly wiping us out, but there are places where we still exist as a single people. If you visit rural Montana, for example, there is no question that you are walking among Americans; they will be one people, and you cannot confuse them for anyone else. They are just not the "Americans" most frequently shown on television, so they're easy to miss.

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Wow, it was really long. Thanks for your attention

However, I recognize that the American people have been occupied by powers that are not American, by the definition I have given.

I think we never thought that america could be invaded because we saw america's 'divide and conquer' policy of the regions other than usa for the last century.

From the outside, it must look like it doesn't mean anything to be an American. Its sadly true for me and i think it goes no more than having a free visa access for the western europeans

In fact, even europeans who lick your ass are angry with you about the refugee problem. They are trying to destroy our destincy. After all that i guess ill turn my perspective from the usa government to government and some organizations.

I guess the next target is us and the europeans with its history dating back to b.c. Even China ruined its great history under communism.

But how long could it have lasted that part of you that you were actually a nation? 150 or 200 years? Its really poor

Look at Germany, for example - a couple millenia ago, these people were different Germanic tribes that, while related, considered themselves separate

Period, even germans who are called as barbarians -indeed they call us too- and we formed a nation. But before you could raise your head, you fell back into the swamp.

This means that you have never become a nation, and some forces that take away your right to become a nation are making everyone nationless just like you, right?

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But before you could raise your head, you fell back into the swamp. This means that you have never become a nation, and some forces that take away your right to become a nation are making everyone nationless just like you, right?

Yeah, I think that's a fair view of what is happening. But the story is not over yet. Europe isn't finished yet. And look at how fast the Nazis changed the German culture and government - there's still time to turn it around.

And Americans still exist, even though we've lost our government and much of our lands. We've lost many battles, but the war is not over yet. We may still succeed in building a lasting nation.

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Perhaps after they are done with you, they will seperate you into dozens of pieces and sail to another country. Who knows?

But keep in mind that extremist ideologies can always lead to dangerous results, just like cancerous cells.

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America used to be "one nation under God." The Jews promoted multiculturalism, in order to give themselves an advantage in society. There goes "one nation." Jewish culture promoted atheism and pornography. There goes "under God." America will not survive. It has been too badly fragmented and divided. It's only a matter of time until it splits into two or more separate nations. Probably four. The Jews have succeeded in destroying America. I don't know if that was their original purpose, but that's what they accomplished.

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Jews didnt have a state for 2000 years, until the mid 1900s. That's why they lived disorganized around the world. Of course, if they did wrong, this view cant support what they did. But dont forget, the last person to say "Jews are guilty" caused the deaths of about 6 millions Jews of Polish-Turkic-German origins.

Proud to BE AN AMERICAN. Not proud of being born an American.

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The idea of a nation state is actually pretty new. Tribes and Kingdoms are likely more natural. Technology changes everything.

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USA, which spreads the idea of globalism in the world also uses nationalism as propaganda. And at the same time it destroyed socialism, the new ideology of century

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it destroyed socialism

We can only dream

the new ideology of century

No it is not... When did Marx write his works? Socialism is a failed ideology from 100 years ago. Socialism is just 'Crypto Communism' literally by definition. Marx himself defined Socialism as a flawed and unworkable system who's only purpose is to lead a society to full Communism. Most idiotic Americans have never read Marx and have no idea what it really means. Most think it means 'socialized health care like Norway.' The northern European/Nordic countries are NOT Socialist... they are Capitalistic systems with strong social services. And any real socialists are happy to allow the delusion to continue because they know that 'real' socialism is much harder to sell to the unwashed masses. The fact that you refer to it with reverence as 'the new ideology of century' indicates to me that you have already bought into the scam or are one of the scammers yourself.

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my definition was a little wrong. an 'outdated'!? definition of nationalism that can also be understood as fascism; just like socialism, but the period in which socialism was clearly manifested is considered to be the previous century, so its like new. And why did socialism bother you so much? There have been and will be communities in the world that misunderstand every ideology.

It's like saying we are the best turd in the toilet. Fuck your shitty country. USA will always be the best of the worst.

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We eat dat pussy and throw Hatchetts fam.

WOOT WOOT

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Hmm i guess its not a platform like i thought

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You don't need a long history to be a great nation. America had unending potential at its creation before being hijacked by ZOG, but then I'm biased as my own country helped in creating it. what happened to it over the last century is a tragedy for mankind as a whole.

No other nation expressed the Faustian spirit of the european race as perfectly as White American Settlers did during its foundation.

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Actually it is as strange like that eastern communities have a long history but see westerners as cultured. Stop giving every shit to the jews, by their financial aids America is now number 1

by their financial aids America is now number 1

Ah, you're quite the comedian.

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what miracle does the country at one of the ocean rule the whole world? europeans or even china couldnt do this.

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