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I recently lost my job and need a new one. I have a 4 year degree and I have a have held many different types of jobs. That being said, I don't really have expertise in any one field. I am kind of in a position in my life where I can and want to start anew, with a career that is actually fulfilling, or at the least, one that doesn't make me want to kill myself. Any ideas? I've thought about going to trade school, maybe become a welder of something, but idk if 2 years of no pay is feasible right now. Regardless I need to figure something out. I am not an idiot, I am a fast learner, and I am fully confident that I could perform almost any job to a satisfactory level (except maybe some jobs that would require some previous specialized training). So does anybody have any bright ideas?

TL/DR: I need a job. Where should I look/apply?

(I almost want to post my censored resume to get some input.... but I'm not THAT stupid. Lol)

I recently lost my job and need a new one. I have a 4 year degree and I have a have held many different types of jobs. That being said, I don't really have expertise in any one field. I am kind of in a position in my life where I can and want to start anew, with a career that is actually fulfilling, or at the least, one that doesn't make me want to kill myself. Any ideas? I've thought about going to trade school, maybe become a welder of something, but idk if 2 years of no pay is feasible right now. Regardless I need to figure something out. I am not an idiot, I am a fast learner, and I am fully confident that I could perform almost any job to a satisfactory level (except maybe some jobs that would require some previous specialized training). So does anybody have any bright ideas? TL/DR: I need a job. Where should I look/apply? (I almost want to post my censored resume to get some input.... but I'm not THAT stupid. Lol)

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[–] 17 pts

I am a welder. Six months in a trade school and any shipyard will take you. You're welcome.

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I don´t think you see yourself welding in your 60s, and it is easy to have an accident that will leave you unable to work as a welder, you have to be fit and climb and work in uncomfortable spaces and unsafe conditions. A broken leg or arm might be all is needed for your employer to let you go and never hire you again, a missing finger can leave you unable to hold the tools properly. I am no welder but I used to work in a similar field and I know how dangerous it is, a one meter fall without a helmet can leave you in coma or kill you, or suffer a back injury, which means you wont be able to climb into some spaces, they will never hire you again if that happens, you will have to start a career from zero in your middle age.

If he has a degree, the best he could do is try to get into an office with the women, even if they pay less, he won´t have to worry about performing a dangerous job or about the old age or about being cold or warm outside.

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This definitely won’t be a popular answer, but forget your degree and forget a trade. Start working in restaurants as a server. Put in 3-6 months at a chain restaurant like outback or red lobster, then move to a higher end private restaurant, somewhere with a check average around $50-$60 or more per guest. I make $90k+ working three days a week, and you’ll do even better in states that enforce a minimum wage for tipped employees (where I am now pays $2.13 an hour but the last state I lived in paid $10.50/hr) I have virtually unlimited time to spend with my family and on my hobbies and the schedule is incredibly flexible even from week to week. If free time was less important to me I could easily be working full time and making $130-150k. If you’re a talker and a people person, you will thrive; and if you’re intelligent and a hard worker you’ll already have an advantage over 90% of the industry

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How many tables can you handle at one time?

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I typically run 9 tables but can handle 13-15 on surprising or short staffed nights. That’s with bussers but without food runners. Without bussers my limit would probably be 6 or 8, with food runners I could probably push 20

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Its all about attention to detail and treating back of the house right.

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Where do you work? I'm curious

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I’m not sure how to best answer this without doxxing myself. I work in a chef-owned restaurant in the old town section of a small city about 30 minutes outside of a major city. The average entree is about $30, so by the time appetizers and drinks and desserts are factored in, the PPA (per person average) is around $55. Since it’s owned by the chef, his goal is to keep labor down to a minimum which enables us to work with fewer servers than a corporate restaurant would staff, which means more tables for each server each shift. During a typical shift I’ll serve 35-40 guests, so you can figure out what 20% tips of that many people at that price range comes out to (though at a restaurant like that the tip average is usually more like 22-23%, because the vast majority of the people spending $250 on four people eating dinner don’t really care about money and tend to be more generous).

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I was just curious. I live in a pretty swanky area so I am sure there is places around here. I've always been worried about fuckn myself with taxes by having a job where a lot of my income comes from tips, but anything is better than nothing. I appreciate the input.

[–] 5 pts

I used to do interviews at a company I worked for. The best thing I can advise is don’t be idle. A couple of weeks is probably ok, us being in the era of the ‘ronies and all, but don’t let it go on too long.

By “don’t be idle,” I don’t mean “go take any job you can get right away.” That can pressure you into a bad decision, and that’s not what you need.

What I mean is that besides searching for a job, you need to be doing something to help explain your gap. Most employers understand that some jobs just end, but that happens to everyone. You need to get ahead of the pack.

Volunteer work is always good. It shows you staying active, staying connected to your community, and the charity you work for can act as a reference to a new employer. Charities also attract those business-owning types looking to do some good, so you might make a connection there. Don’t just do the work, be open and friendly with the people you meet.

Taking classes is also good, but you mentioned that money could be an issue. The US Dept. of Labor used to offer retraining (or “reskilling,” as the lingo is now) at reduced costs or with loans, but I don’t know if that’s still a thing.

Your local government may offer similar training for free. Depending on where you live, you may have to put up with nigger stank and gibbering goblinos, but that’s what happens when anything “free” is offered.

Of course, there’s always the option to (((take out a loan))) for the training you want. But only you can weigh the costs and benefits of that.

But for fuck’s sake, be able to say something when the interviewer asks, “What did you do during that period of time?” “I dunno, just hung out,” is a red-flag four-alarm warning. At minimum, it shows that you’re not motivated to be a self-starter. At worst, it will make people suspicious that you have taken up idler pasttimes, like smoking weed, day drinking, or similar.

If you absolutely can’t find anything to do, say you were caring for a sick relative. It’s the go-to.

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Do I have to tell you to clean up your social media? Clean up your social media! I googled, facebooked, etc. everyone. It really is amazing what people will post. I had one retard college kid actually post a selfie outside our office telling his friends and family that he was “high as fuck but need this internship, let’s do this.”

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Do not be late for your interview. DO NOT BE FUCKING LATE FOR YOUR INTERVIEW. Based on your statements, you don’t strike me as someone who would do this, so this is more for anyone else who may be reading.

I interviewed professional people for serious positions, not niggers looking for a shift at McDonald’s. And motherfuckers looking for jobs at that level would be LATE.

I was too soft at first, trying to be understanding. But there ended up being a lot of correlation with latecomers and other undesirable habits. Eventually I just started telling them “the position has been filled, thanks for your interest” when they showed up late.

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Good luck! I know it’s tough, but jobs come and go. Try to remain positive, resilient, and resourceful, those traits will get you far.

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Any tips for someone who completely screwed up networking during university and about to graduate in a few months? I feel like I missed the boat and really screwed myself.

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You have to get out and meet new people.That's critical. If you only talk to the same people in certain circles, you're only going to get the same old stuff. It's kinda like dating in that respect.

Socialize in your community. Volunteer work is good for this (for the same reasons I listed previously), and it doesn't have to take more than a few hours at a time. I'm not a churchgoer, but I hear of people taking on fellow parishioners.

If you have a particular hobby that has Meetups, you could try that. I know some artsy types who got writing gigs that way (shit tier, but it's something).

Networking events are a kinda lame shotgun approach to job-hunting, but it's something.

And I hate to say it, but it has come up too often to be deniable--bars. I've known a couple of people who got jobs because they had a good time at a bar with someone who was hiring or hiring for their company. It is the most illogical way I can think of to get a new employee, but there it is. If you're a drinker, go someplace new, be presentable, and don't get sloppy.

If you do these things, you need to know it's not a one-and-done. You can't just do it two or three times and say, "Shit! That didn't work!"

Stupid as it is, the social aspects can be more important than qualifications. Most people are qualified to do something, but the deciding factor (even for me) will probably be whether or not people like you personally. Maya Angelou was right-- "People won't remember what you said or did, but they'll remember how you made them feel."

TL/DR? Be consistent, make the effort to meet new people, be open and friendly, take on tasks with a smile.

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Also, go into a trade. Trucking has a shortage. Electrician is a good one. Welding pays good

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I think truckers start about $70 or 80k. Major demand right now. One of the most dangerous jobs; probably the most dangerous widely held job. Pretty much all you need is a CDL which you can probably get with a month or less of training.

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"trucker shortage" is the motto from training companies since the 90s.

the real shortage is the lack of pay that keeps people bailing from low paying otr work. not to mention the shit treatment and abuse from your employer and people you have to deal with.

you'll be seeing fuel tank driver shortage. thats also due to the fuel tanker companies paying drivers low. or trying to force them into predatory leases.

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The real shortage is because you never know when theres a mob of apes trying to pull you from your truck and murder you or damage/loot it.

Had at least year worth or more of riots to scare off many would be drivers.

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I'd suggest truck driving school. There's talk of self-driving trucks coming up, but a driver still needs to be in the cab. But until then, there is a tremendous driver shortage right now. The pay is probably pretty good too. Back in the 1990's, I became a driver and quickly became a driver trainer over the road. Made $70-$80 each year. You can do this.

See 48 states and Canada. Meet interesting people. You'll soon realize what a little world you've always lived in.

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Go work at a beer delivery company for a year and they will train you on a class A then just test doubles and hazmat and you have a year experience as a class A driver. Looks better than a school and real world experience

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Are you good at chemistry? Do you have a RV?

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Robots will be welding in 10 years, learn to program them. Plenty of online resources to get started. In the meantime, look for a laptop / desktop deployment job. It's entry level IT employment, and will get your foot in the door.

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Robots will be welding NEW construction but not repair.

Repair and maintenance fields are long term human only.

Electrician, plumber, etc.

[–] 8 pts

This is the answer I give people when they say that!

Robots have been welding in factories for decades. When I was doing iron work the only welders up on the steel were human. No way to get a machine in place. Plumbers and electricians who service existing residential customers will never be out of work.

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Especially structural steel or dies

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I AM BIG BRAIN MAN. I KNOW THINGS AND STUFF.

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Also some things like shipyards are difficult to automate. I reckon it'll be a good 10 or 20 years before robots can reliably and safely navigate a construction site.

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Nah I've seen articles where metal construction workers will be the least affected by automation and robots taking jobs. You would need a robot capable of doing like 15 different complex activities.

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Coming for that market too. You may be the person deploying the robot, but I doubt that will pay a living wage. Same for electrician and plumber. It'll use machine learning to look at the problem and fix it in most cases. Sure, there will still need to be some human work in some rare cases.

We as a planet, rally, really, need to plan for when there isn't enough "work" to sustain wages.

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You don't have a fucking clue what entails being an electrician or plumber if you think there's going to be "service call robots" AND the need for humans to earn an income simultaneously

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I dont disagree as a concept, but computers will be programming computers FAR SOONER than they will be fixing plumbing leaks. I don't think programming is a long term solution. I think it is a boom and bust industry over the next 10 to 15 years.

Existing structure repair will need human interaction far more than future programming needs will.

But you're right about planning for a non work society in general

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Home repair and remodeling can not be done by a robot, at least not in the next 30 years.

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Whats to plan? print and give away fiat "money".. sit back and watch shit-skins breed like rats (while childless white women post selfies and virtue signal from their full-time CAREER/Office)

Oh wait.. that's not the plan. that's real life

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Bullshit. They have robot welders now and it takes a real welder to run them. You can't really get a robot to function outside in the field. I've run automatic welding machines but a machine is only good in very controlled situations. What happens when the fit up is nonstandard? Robot welding fails. They tried this in one factory I worked at and we all laughed when it failed. Eventually they gave up and shoved it into a corner to gather dust. Welding is an art.

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Now, give it 10 years.

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They said the same thing to me twenty years ago.

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Learn to program is absolutely terrible advice. At least until the illegal Visa programs are scrapped. Trump moved us in thre right direction. Biden undid it.

There is a sea of entry level coders and dots are destroying labor rates.

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I would only recommend programing if you are interested in it AND have some natural talent for it. If you start and find it difficult and confusing, it's probably not for you.

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Thank you. Great idea. When you say "laptop/desktop deployment" is that just setting up computers for people/businesses?

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Yup, EASY, Good introduction to IT. You'll probably work alongside helpdesk persons and admins. Proper ones will want to train you if you show initiative. How I got my start many years ago.

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Well considering that my last job was working at a help desk, that could be a good thing. Any suggestions on places to look? The only places I can think of that would hire for a position like that are retail places like Best Buy or big companies that need IT people for their employees.

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This might help you come up with an idea and the motivation to go after it: https://www.mikeroweworks.org/scholarship/

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Thanks

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Watch a few of the videos where Mike discusses past scholarship winners and why they were chosen. There's also one about a female welder that has some interesting points.

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I'll check it out. I like Mike Rowe. I barely ever watched the show, but from what I have seen of him, I like he has to say and seems to be about.

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This will be an unpopular answer, and depends on your locale a bit, but have you looked into law enforcement? If you have a decently clean background and aren't a fat fuck, there is a hiring crisis nationwide. You still get a decent pension, paid training (in most places), and depending on how you do the job, it can be very fulfilling.

[–] 8 pts

Man, you may as well just tell the dude to kill himself, given what we all know about LE from this site.

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What you think you know.

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True. But damn, just look at LE now. The upsides are great, but one bad nigger encounter and the entire planet dogpiles on you.

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I strongly suspect that one intention of all this maddness is to drive all decent people out of the police force. It's good advice.

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Fuck being a cop. You deal with the dreggs of society on a daily basis and constantly have a fucked schedule.

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They are limiting the size of training classes because of the fake pandemic so it takes WAY longer to get in.

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Depends on where you are on the nation, in some places the machine never stopped.

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Damn, I would never have considered that.

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You will constantly have people assume you are the scum of the earth and hunting down black people to murder. That's the BLM narrative, they say all cops are bad. It's pretty horrible. Most cops are good. And with that said they get orders from a corrupt government so they will be doing corrupt things.

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There are racist cops. There are bad cops. There are corrupt cops.

There are also many that are none of those things. There are people that truly want to make a difference, and take their oath seriously. There are departments out there that allow cops to properly do that.

It's not an easy, or popular job. But it's necessary, and there will always be people that will step up to do it. We are in one of the worst, if not the worst time for law enforcement right now, but every pendulum swings both ways.

Every day I read terrible stories about cops, and it really does give the entire profession a black eye (or worse). Every day I also read fucking disgusting stories about truly heinous crimes that people commit.

The profession isn't going anywhere. We may see it change, and in some ways it needs to. As long as there are robbers, there will be cops.

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What the fuck are you smoking? Or have you lived under a rock the last 5 years..? Theres a damn good reason for the nationwide hiring crisis.

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Hey, the dude asked for job ideas. I gave him an idea.

The crisis is actually because of the 08 recession. Most departments froze their hiring for anywhere from 1-5 years. Fast forward to today, and all the retirements, resignations, transfers, and firings in that time, plus a slow start back has lead large gaps in most departments. So they are getting to the point where they are falling below critical numbers to cover patrol, and are being forced to pull specialty divisions back to the street.

Add to this the current political climate, and they aren't getting the kind of numbers they need.

To be clear, every hiring event is still packed with people. Just not the correct caliber of people, as attrition is huge through each step as you go thru physical, background, psych, medical, and interview segments.

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Fair enough, he did ask for ideas. However I don't think what you're suggesting is a particularly good idea. Thats my opinion though.

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Look into apprenticeship programs in your area. You don't need to spend years in a school with no income.

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I'm not old yet, but I'm old enough to realize a few things.

Working for a conglomerate is soul suicide. They crunch you like they crunch numbers.

Working in an office under fluorescent lights is harmful on multiple levels.

Very few of those jobs will teach you anything valuable for survival. They certainly offer zero satisfaction.

Working with your body gives you fulfillment on multiple levels.

It's also very healthy for you.

You'll find meaning in the strangest thing. For me, I love making soap. Doesn't seem like much, and I had no idea I would give two craps about it when I started, but once I dug into the truth behind the poisons in every industrial detergent labeled soap I became very sure of how important it was to provide people with the option of and information on soaps. I haven't officially launched a business but I have a lot of people who buy from me because I gifted them at Christmas. It's delightful to hear how someone's psoriasis has completely cleared up, or how a weird rash that wouldn't go away is now gone, or how the itching after showers is gone. There's real meaning in providing a quality of life improvement for people.

That being said, if I were young(and male) I would probably lean towards doing things like carpentry, electricity, plumbing, general handy man work. Did you know a lot of Amish sell their homes really cheap because they don't have electricity and sometimes plumbing in them. If someone sold their services to "improve" these houses you could make a lot of money from people who wish to purchase them but don't know how to begin installing that.

Good luck.

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I make websites. If you're ever interested in turning the hobby to a business hit me up!

I'd love to help a Poaler take one step closer to independence doing what they love.

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That's incredibly generous of you! Thank you.

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I been making soap professionally for a decade personally for two decades. It's a slow art skill to master. It's a lot of fun too.

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I really enjoy it. I don't know that I have fun making it, but it is definitely enjoyable. I guess I feel stressed to make sure that I do everything correctly, until it's done. Once I go to cut my loaves it's fun though! I love seeing the designs when I use different natural colorants. I also have a lot of pride in them, I love the earthy looks, the way my skin feels when using them, and the feeling of the luxury of being blessed with access to the internet to learn to do it, as well as the ability to acquire the things I use to make it. It gives another facet of appreciation in life.

What got you into making soap? Do you specialize in any particular kind?

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I was washing my ass in the shower one day and said "what the fuck is soap anyway? Is this some bullshit they tell me I need just to sell me my whole life? Is it just sone dumb bar of goop that washes away or is it important?"

So I started learning about soap, and I discovered that it IS important and unique and amazing. I learned the history of soap and how complex and rich and awesome it is. And then I learned about the different detergents and sbit that is in new soaps. I went down the rabbit hole. Skin health. Fatty acids. Animal vs vegetable.

I usually make a cold process soap now. I started with hot process, and sometimes I still make an hp when I feel like it but cp is prettier for customers. I make several kinds

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