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I'm in a meeting with people who are insisting that the environmental quality of flights is a very hot topic in the airline business, and oddly a big concern for corporate travelers.

And I'm not believing it for one second.

Apparently, 'green' flights are flights which are direct, and use larger planes, fly longer routes, and use 'sustainable' jet fuel.

Airlines are positioning this concept such that they will charge a bit more for such 'green' flights (manipulating customers' sympathies), while at the same time saving money because of basic efficiency (larger planes, direct routes) and because of government rewards for being 'green'.

As both a corporate and personal traveler, I have never, not once, considered the degree to which the flight I'm taking is 'green'. IMHO airplanes (and considering the entirety of the industry) pollute SO MUCH, that being 'green' really doesn't amount to much. I am much more sensitive to direct flights and cost considerations than anything else.

Do any of you care at all about how 'green' your flights are?

I'm in a meeting with people who are insisting that the environmental quality of flights is a very hot topic in the airline business, and oddly a big concern for corporate travelers. And I'm not believing it for one second. Apparently, 'green' flights are flights which are direct, and use larger planes, fly longer routes, and use 'sustainable' jet fuel. Airlines are positioning this concept such that they will charge a bit more for such 'green' flights (manipulating customers' sympathies), while at the same time saving money because of basic efficiency (larger planes, direct routes) and because of government rewards for being 'green'. As both a corporate and personal traveler, I have never, not once, considered the degree to which the flight I'm taking is 'green'. IMHO airplanes (and considering the entirety of the industry) pollute SO MUCH, that being 'green' really doesn't amount to much. I am much more sensitive to direct flights and cost considerations than anything else. Do any of you care at all about how 'green' your flights are?

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[–] [deleted] • 8 pts

I only fly when I have too because its a god awfull soul crushing experience where passengers are humiliated and treated like cattle. I really don't give a shit about any of the fake green hysteria going around. There are container ships running back and forth from America to China that produce more emissions in a year than every car on the road yet they haven't decided to start making everything in America again.

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The 16 largest containerships emit more pollution than every car and truck on Earth.

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The only thing unsustainable are the population growth of niggers, and other non-White countries.

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I don't fly nearly as much as I used to. If I did, I still wouldn't give a shit about the manufactured hysteria around "global warming," "climate change," or whatever they're calling it now. Yes, sustainable aviation fuel is a thing, but it is not very widely in use because it's even more expensive than regular jet fuel. Airline are a business. Anything to lessen the profit margin isn't worth it.

There's a move on to get the feds to use our tax dollars to subsidize the fuel to make it more affordable. It's another 'green' boondoggle waiting to happen.

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There is a small segment of the population that thinks about this. On an entire airliner full of people I bet that there are one or two that care... I think these people fall into one of two categories. First is the busy body Karen who will not do anything about the problem but will definitely brag to all her friends that she took a 'green flight.' The second set of people are the ones that are rich and influential, but not rich enough for their own private jet. These people care because they might find themselves in a position of being called out as a climate hypocrite. "You claim to care about the environment but you flew to this conference on a polluting jet!" These people will pay a little more to be able to say "Actually, I made sure to book a flight with a high 'green flight' score!"

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Well put. Honestly, I would rather spend the extra on a better seat or on a nicer hotel room or rental car. All of this green-washing BS is way out of hand is just another forum of SJW virtue signaling.

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I only fly as a means to an end. I don't care who flys the plane, how "green" it is. I only care how much it costs and how long it takes.

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I would pay double to ensure the crew are White men

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I used to enjoy flying Singapore air because they weren't politically correct and hired only cute young girls as stewardesses. Plus they only kept their airplanes for about 5 years and updated them regularly. The food was pretty good too.

Contrast that to US carriers who hire male and female staff. The females are never retired and they cop an attitude after they get older. Speaking of which, the equipment is kept way past its prime. The food has essentially disappeared, but no loss since it was never good anyway.

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yes, i do care how green it is.

the harder they push the 'we are green' thing the less likely i am to use their business.

applies to everything.

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humans are not affecting climate. looking to cycles and see we are heading into a long dry cycle. and on top of that the sun spot activity is going to peak. GG humans

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I don’t like being at the immediate mercy of so many people for my travel. I avoid flying.

I am sick of all the virtue signaling shit though about how “green” a company is.

I was picking up Chipotle the other day, ordered off of their app. There was a problem with the order not showing up in their system, so the girl at the counter asked me to pull up the details so they could just quickly remake the order.

I literally could not find the details on the order screen. There was two thumb scrolls’ worth of info about how much the purchase was “saving the planet,” but no visible way to review the specifics of the product ordered.

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We no longer fly. Airlines can eat ass.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

I want flames in the engine, so I don't give a shit how much fuel it uses to stay in the air.

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No. None care. If you're hearing this is strictly Special Olympics virtue signaling.

There is no such thing as green jet fuel. With the price of fuel all airlines care about efficiency. It's their single largest operating cost per mile. They all add additives to prevent fuel freezing and congealing in the tanks (also prevents moisture from crystallizing). The "green" biodiesel junk requires even more additives to offset because it freezes at much higher temps than regular jet fuel. There is no green jet fuel.

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