Germans destroyed rome. This was largely due to stagnation of rome resulting from exceedingly corrupt politicians and aristocracy as well as near endless civil wars. Originally one had to own land to have rights in rome and they had to fight in the army. By the late republic those soldiers would return home to find some rich dude had stolen their land and filled it with slaves.
The byzantines controlled turkey up until manzikert which was like 1059 or something. They took parts back later, but then 4th crusade happened and the catholics sacked constantinople, the byzantines never recovered and the catholics were too busy killing heretics and each other to notice the turks building an empire in the chaos they created.
Muhammed was actually a white dude with red hair and the arabs were whiter during the early days but muzzies love slavery so they are mixed now. Plus the mongols and turks swept through who were also mixed.
I don't necessarily think christianity helped the romans maintain power much, but I don't see it as their downfall either. They just got too corrupt in the end and wasted too much fighting themselves for power.
lol and how do you think they destroyed rome? christian priests worked with them and helped them. it first destroyed rome ideologically by replacing the aspirations of romans with that of 'Christianity' and then they did it physically with outright betrayal.
i have no idea why you bothered to mention byzantine, as if it matters that they managed to hold on for a while longer. they should've been the ones conquering, not clinging to survival.
Haha, nah the germans rolled in and killed the roman soldiers and made themselves nobles and kings, retard. The germans were arian christian and the romans were catholics. Both groups of people chose to become Christians on there own.
I mentioned byzantine, because they were just the half of the roman empire that didn't fall for another thousand years. And you know, the romans were the subject.
You have no idea what you're talking about, retard. The arian split is EXACTLY why so many christian priests helped the germans conquer rome, because many of those priests sided with the arian denomination. Christian ideology became predominant over the interests of Rome, thus Rome fell and Christianity arose. It really is as simple as that, but you have plethoras of idiots trying to speculate over the fall of the empire, concocting anything else to avoid admitting this critical truth, and ending up misleading and deceiving 19 yr olds like you who repeat their lies.
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