You DO NOT treat an acute outbreak of an infectious disease by distributing a "vaccine". That's literally the worst thing to do (even assuming that the vaccine is safe and effective). Introducing a vaccine into a situation where there is an ongoing outbreak will only expose the virus to an under-developed vaccine induced immune response, allowing the virus to quickly evolve to circumvent the vaccine.
India has been rolling out the "vaccine" pretty hard, something like 100M doses I think. Perhaps they are now starting to see the effects. Obviously, they can't admit that it's the vaccine, so they need a cover story. Enter the "Super Wave of Ultra COVID", everyone be afraid (and get your "vaccine"). Or they might just be hyping/faking the number of positives to stoke more fear.
How much testing are they doing to get ~300k positive test results per day? They MUST be ramping up testing massively. Suppose they were getting 1-2% positive rate for test, a few weeks ago they were getting <20k positive per day. 300k is 15 times as many cases. They have either massively ramped up testing, or they are now getting ~30% positive rate (which would be absurd when other areas of outbreak are generally <3% positive rate for those tested).
Here, you can see where they are ramping up the testing MASSIVELY: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-covid-19-tests-per-day?time=earliest..latest
EDIT: Here's a quick chart I did of "New Tests" vs "New Cases" (Data is from https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/india): https://pic8.co/sh/lNb6xi.jpg
As you can see, testing has been more than doubled. The positivity rate has also increased from <2% to around 20%, so my rough guesses from before were not too far off. Whether the deaths are actually a result of COVID, or are from other causes and are being incorrectly attributed is unknown.
> You DO NOT treat an acute outbreak of an infectious disease by distributing a "vaccine". That's literally the worst thing to do (even assuming that the vaccine is safe and effective). Introducing a vaccine into a situation where there is an ongoing outbreak will only expose the virus to an under-developed vaccine induced immune response, allowing the virus to quickly evolve to circumvent the vaccine.
A prominent Belgian vaccinologist, Geert Vanden Bossche, agrees with this sentiment.
Edit: Bossche has his PhD in virology, not vaccinology. My bad.
Check out Bossche’s credentials here: https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/
If vaccine reduces the severity of symptoms without producing sterilizing immunity, then that forces the evolution of the virus towards a more deadly form.
says who? baboon doctor?
Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche is a veterinary doctor who also has a Ph.D. in virology
you are dumber than flan earthers
So, because someone has training as a veterinarian it negates their other accomplishments?
You are a class A fuckwit.
Ph.D. in virology
This is why you were expelled from every country on earth.
Thanks for the correction. Added an edit. I do not retract that Bossche is a prominent figure in vaccine development.
Read about his credentials here: https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/
I know it's a typo, but it could be fun to introduce another variable to the discussion and make flat earthers argue against my position that the earth is a firm cream custard. Let them see what it feels like to have to battle utter, utter retards.
Introducing a vaccine into a situation where there is an ongoing outbreak will only expose the virus to an under-developed vaccine induced immune response, allowing the virus to quickly evolve to circumvent the vaccine.
This is how you get things like MRSA and golden staph. Medicine-resistant strains of pathogens, in other words.
How much testing are they doing to get ~300k positive test results per day? They MUST be ramping up testing massively. Suppose they were getting 1-2% positive rate for test, a few weeks ago they were getting <20k positive per day. 300k is 15 times as many cases. They have either massively ramped up testing, or they are now getting ~30% positive rate (which would be absurd when other areas of outbreak are generally <3% positive rate for those tested).
I personally think its got something to do with the vaccine. There's quite a few in India who have at least 1 dose of it, and it's shown in several studies of previous attempted coronavirus vaccines that test subjects would seem to have gained immunity, but when exposed to the wild virus their immune systems went into hyperdrive and killed the test subjects. I think this is the first part of that hyperdrive immune response from the vaccine.
Note, this is just my theory, I don't have training in virology, this is just coming from reading the medical literature and forming my own conclusions with events in real time.
That’s a lot of words when you could just say Covid is fake, which it is.
Introducing a vaccine into a situation where there is an ongoing outbreak will only expose the virus to an under-developed vaccine induced immune response, allowing the virus to quickly evolve to circumvent the vaccine.
That's not how evolution works. The process is completely random, it is not directed. That means the mutations that are going to happen will happen regardless of vaccines. The only difference a vaccine will have is the selection of any resistant mutations that might develop. It won't cause those mutations to happen.
Say you have strain A that is controlled by a vaccine and strain B that is not. If nobody is vaccinated you will see about 50% strain A and 50% strain B after some time. With a vaccine you will see a much higher prevalence of strain B because people are immune to strain A. The vaccine didn't cause strain B, or even cause more people to be infected. It just stopped strain A from reproducing.
You have just explained, in some more detail than I did, how selection pressures effect the evolution of organisms. Evolution is an emergent response to environmental changes, in this case the presence of specific vaccine induced immune response.
I did not say that the vaccine CAUSES the virus to change directly. It changes the environment within which the virus will evolve to survive (or not). The mutation may be random, but the selection is not.
I don't think we are in disagreement at all really.
What I mean is that the mutation would have happened without the vaccine, and it would have spread just as much without the vaccine. The vaccine just highlights the new strain by removing the old strain.
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