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I ask because I think the time is coming when many of us will have to fight them. I've known quite a few people , some family , others from the neighborhood , family of friends who from fighting the viet cong up to the "drug wars" and counter insurgencies in central america in the 80s to fallujah in Iraq fought monstrous people , and themselves did monstrous things. Kidnapping , interrogations, summary executions etc.

These were for the most part decent people who were required to do terrible things. In my observation they went one of two ways. They either became psychopaths who just enjoyed hurting others , or enjoyed seeing others suffer , or became alcoholics or addicts , and just empty shells. So how does one fight beasts without becoming one ?

I ask because I think the time is coming when many of us will have to fight them. I've known quite a few people , some family , others from the neighborhood , family of friends who from fighting the viet cong up to the "drug wars" and counter insurgencies in central america in the 80s to fallujah in Iraq fought monstrous people , and themselves did monstrous things. Kidnapping , interrogations, summary executions etc. These were for the most part decent people who were required to do terrible things. In my observation they went one of two ways. They either became psychopaths who just enjoyed hurting others , or enjoyed seeing others suffer , or became alcoholics or addicts , and just empty shells. So how does one fight beasts without becoming one ?

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You might have to become the bigger monster, and resign yourself that you had no real choice in the matter, your hand was forced, and the new world owes it's freedom and security to your sacrifice of your blood, heart, mind, and soul for the sake of your people's future.

A lot of works of fiction like to depict heroism as this thing that doesn't hurt you inside, something that doesn't make you have to do things that you will despise yourself for doing for the rest of your life, this is the true cost of war, not the loss of life or innocence, but the assumption of guilt, you will never know if you had no choice, you will never know if you did the best thing you could have done, I'd say that self-loathing is the true sign of great hero, because he was willing to go beyond his moral boundaries in order to set things rightly.

Maybe this is the true meaning of the heroes journey? the supernatural world is the world beyond the laws and morals to which the hero is accustomed, where conflict occurs, and he is changed irreversibly by the things he does, but in his case, it's not something that improves him, it's something that taxes on him, and will do so for the rest of his days, but the world is indeed much better for it.

The cost of being a good person who fought for what was right, is being unable to say that you are such a person to yourself ever again.

We might have to see Whites fighting to overthrow their own governments and install dictatorships (just like the old days).

We might have to see Whites going around hunting down non-Whites, even children and innocents who did no harm (I could see asians being spared this treatment though, and even enlisted as allies in this endeavor, again, just like the old days).

We might have to see a lot of war, both civil and international, as family members kill one another, since the whites who still hold hope in the existing system will oppose any attempt by those Whites who seek it's replacement or renewal by violent means.

We might have to see the public executions of traitors and criminals, even those whose offenses would normally be considered petty crimes.

We might have to see forced recruitment, conscription, and children being raised to be soldiers intent on finding and killing the enemies of their people.

We might have to see the eviction and exile of blacks and browns.

We might have to see the complete and organized global eradication of the Jewish ethnicity.

We might have to see the Bible be completely rewritten in order to better suit the political needs of White people.

All this is going to be due to just how much damage has been left to accrue, it's going to take a lot more bloody and brutal means to fix more than a half century of cancer and infection that has been allowed, and even encouraged to grow among our people and their countries.

It's one thing to keep someone from coming in, it's another to get rid of the many descendants who now live in your lands, it's one thing to never give handouts to an incompetent race, it's another to pull the plug on these services that they had grown dependent on, it's one thing to prevent corruption from gaining control over your society, it's another to cut it out of it once it's gotten in there and only spread it's tendrils into everything around it.

Fortunately, we live in an age of the internet, where the archives and records of how our society had changed over time will stand to make a clear case for why what you did was good and necessary, hopefully, it will also stand as a testament to why certain policies and ideas are dangerous for us to adopt, and why certain kinds of people can never be trusted by our kind, so that you will have the confidence that all you did, will never have to be done again.

You get a lot in exchange for sacrificing your opinion of yourself, for the price of betraying what are normally your moral principles to the altar of war, you get so much in return for it, and not just you, but your children, and your children's children, and all of your line, shall benefit greatly.

one thing that might help is hate, hate for the entire groups of people you will be fighting, will keep you sane, it will set a double standard, that you and your kind deserves one moral standard, but these other people, who you are fighting, deserves no moral considerations at all.

That way, when you return to a society of only the first category of people, you can rest easy know that you were consistent in your moral ideology, and function.

but yeah, war will fuck you up, at the very least, your heart will have hardened, you will lose trust for most of the people around you, and you will know what the insides of people really look like, and why video games and movies choose to avoid showing the reality of it.

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The voice of experience. I salute you.

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All of the men you described fought for at best a cold, incompetent government, or at worst Israel and its spawn. Fight for family and you'll have someone to make you human again.

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You become a terrifying monster. You have no choice but to destroy your enemy completely.

However, when it’s all done and the time comes you must be able to let go of being the monster. When the enemy is completely gone, then you let go. You won’t be the same as you are now. But if you can’t let the monster go in the end, we’ve still lost.

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You can't. You sacrifice a part of your soul to protect others.

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"If you act like a nigger because niggers, then who's the real nigger?" - Some guy on Voat

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Kinda my point

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Yeah I see what you are saying and I have often asked myself the same question. The answer to that question really depends a lot on your religious beliefs and your predictions for what type of crisis scenario is coming.

Sometimes it can seem like the right is losing, and it's because no one has the balls to start shooting and bombing. There is some truth to this, but also some ignorance. Did Anders Breivik stop leftism in Norway? No. Did Eric Rudolph stop abortion in America? No. The way we win this war is through continuing to redpill people and building communities with the resources to withstand civil unrest and direct attack.

If you think about where we are now, it can be discouraging to see how many normies there are. But if you compare our situation to where we were 10 years ago, there are many more people who understand the truth about race and the Jewish problem. Our numbers continue to grow.

Real violence will probably come to the US in the next 40 years. In my opinion, our objective when it comes to violence is survival. Self-defense is always morally acceptable. Our goal is to keep right-wingers(our families and communities) alive, and if we have to kill to do it, that's fine. As long as we and our women are alive, we can emerge from whatever crisis comes and build a healthy society. Don't take the vaccines. Homeschool your kids. Boycott leftist corporations. Have enough food and water to survive. And when the ZOG or leftist looter mobs come to kill us, kill all they send, and we might survive. That won't turn you into a monster.

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In one way or another we will all become monsters. We are all going to strive to survive. Our founding fathers were used to war and hardships so they were conditioned to it. The average American whines about no electricity after two days... The strong,smart and cunning will survive. The liberal sheep will be taken out in the liberal cities by various roving gangs. So embrace your monster, he is your safety net.

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I just don't want to lose my humanity in the process.

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I can understand that. None of us will ever be completely normal and we'll all have hangups. Once the dust settles and our new world is established only then can we focus on picking up the broken pieces to glue us back together.

Life doesn't care much what you want from it.

But take some courage! you live in a time of great upheaval and heroism! you will attain glory and be remembered! you will have saved the lives of countless innocents by persecuting the guilty!

Maybe you are just wanting the wrong things.

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I have no issue with doing what needs to be done , I just don't want to lose my decency , humanity in the process

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You say every day, "Not my will, but thine, be done, O Lord." You embrace a moral code of behavior that comes down from God, and you uphold it even in the face of derision or opposition. This gives you principles by which you live. It also gives you a strength of will that cannot be broken. This is what made Ronald Reagan a better man than Bill Clinton, and the American people recognized it and loved Reagan for it. Reagan's principles were unbreakable. He knew what was right, because he was a Christian. He was not unsure about what to do -- he knew what to do. That is what is missing from the average American today.

Reagan was a traitor judeophile.

Give me JFK any day over that prick.

Better yet, Andrew fucking Jackson. #bestprez

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Just remember the phrase "did nothing wrong."

Hitler and every other good boy didn't do NUFFIN.

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Their is a 'Monster' that lives in each of us,how you control.limit or maintain the beast within is the key.

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Your sense of fair play exists because it's been mostly reciprocated. If you play chess with your parents you expect them to play by the rules. If you try to play chess with a seagull he'll make lots of noise, shit all over the board and fly away. Civilized rules exist for civilized people. Not for animals. They only apply to those willing to reciprocate. If you're hunting a deer for food you're not going to accept his surrender and take him prisoner. You finish him off if he's wounded. This is not unethical, there is no shame in it.

The jew has decided he needs to exterminate you because you stand in the way of his dream of ruling over a world of low IQ slaves. He will show you no mercy, he will never uphold his side of a bargain. He has proved this again and again. No matter how much Trump cucked to the jew he was betrayed at every turn. You are not a monster for defending yourself against monsters.

However, as you've said, being civilized is so ingrained in most of us that doing what needs to be done can take a toll. You need to decide who you are. If you're the kind of person who can live with doing dirty work or not. If you're not then your role is to facilitate and look the other way. There will be people who are willing. You just need to make sure they can do what they need to do.

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No such thing as fair play in war. . Just don't want to become an unfeeling uncaring psychopath , and that may be what is required

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