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YouTube? Logic Would dictate let a fool speak and prove himself a fool?

But the king didn't cut out the tongue of the flatearther because he feared his lies he feared the truth.

I am not a flat earth believer but their videos are interesting and a rational real science minded person would never get emotional and name call people for a theory and testing the theory they would just try to either replicate your test or experiments or come up with their own to prove their theory.

The emotional name calling attacks from the normies against flat earth people raises red flags with me and from what I've seen the flat earth people talk and act reasonable and rational

YouTube? Logic Would dictate let a fool speak and prove himself a fool? But the king didn't cut out the tongue of the flatearther because he feared his lies he feared the truth. I am not a flat earth believer but their videos are interesting and a rational real science minded person would never get emotional and name call people for a theory and testing the theory they would just try to either replicate your test or experiments or come up with their own to prove their theory. The emotional name calling attacks from the normies against flat earth people raises red flags with me and from what I've seen the flat earth people talk and act reasonable and rational

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Flat earth was promoted by jews/CIA to be the poster boy for all conspiracy theories. This way they can ban it, talk shit about how regarded it is, and then lump every other conspiracy in with it to make them look just as dumb.

I have seen some flat earth videos and they mostly use optical illusions and cherry picked science.

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DING DING DING. my take exactly

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Exactly. If someone were to complain about videos being taken down that discussed fluoride in water or international elites fucking kids, they could point out that all conspiracies are taken down including flat earth/contrails/hollow earth/etc. If they don’t take those down, it calls too much attention to what they do take down.

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Why take anything down? Let it stand or fall on its merits we don't need a big brother telling us what is true and false.

Under your logic all porn should be banned and taken down it obviously causes more harm then flat earth videos

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I believe in some government oversight over degeneracy. My solution would be a 500% tax rate for all pornography as well as zero intellectual property rights. Which means for every dollar earned they must pay $5 in taxes. Also their degenerate filth can be freely distributed and shared in bittorrent so that there is no reason to ever actually pay for porn with crypto currency. Pormographer's would never be able to sue for copywrite infringement. If they ever got caught avoiding their 500% tax rate the penalties would be financial desolation.

Basically use all the weapons available to undermine, delegitimize and financially disincentivize the whole degeneracy market.

Right now pornography is a multi billion dollar per year industry exploiting people to sell poison to the people all so lecherous parasites can get rich off the exploitation of others.

Pornography is how they are normalizing prostitution which is already legal in Nevada. Onlyfans and pornhub is normalizing the whole sex work industry. They start it off by selling it to the youth as a quick buck.

Normalizing prostitution leads to human trafficking and eventually enslavement of our people.

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didn't Churchill say the truth needs to ne protected by a bodyguard of lies

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Or how about the hard-hitting truth is censored and FE falls into that category?

Because you aren’t giving any evidence for FE being a psy-op or refuting it by asserting that.

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You are correct. Notice all of the proponents never have anything to substantiate their position. Never. Though they pretend linking any random video terminates discussion.

Ask how many have personally made an effort to confirm one way or the other. Their answer is always never. Always.

Want to confirm sats exist and are orbiting?

Simple: https://youtu.be/PWWGDL5tC_I

Ask them why techniques thousands of years old which proves them wrong are ignored? Oh, that's right, basic math is fake too.

Not one shred of evidence supports their position. Not one.

Ask them why airplanes prove the earth is round.

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LOL. Even Black Science Man says you can’t see curvature from 120,000 feet. If you’re trying to tell me you can see the curve from an airplane then you clearly aren’t qualified to have this debate.

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NoisySilence is a fat boomer that doesn't engage in good faith debate

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So you're the confirmed shill with multiple accounts. Oy vey rabbi. Oy vey.

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Your strawman is just that.

Next.

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And you trust nigger science man?

You can perceive the curvature on the ground i think it takes just 17 meters distance on a frozen lake 3 sticks of equal height with eye holes at the same height in two and a light to shine on the third at the same height dead of night. Drawing all apart in a strait line the light will become blocked by the lower portion of the second stick. Were the earth flat you couldn't explain curvature on a flat body of water which was frozen. This test was done by a known flat earther and the result occured as i said, he couldn't explain it. It's just like lining up iron sights on a gun, if the lake were a flat plane and all your sticks the same height you'd see the light but with even a couple of inches of curvature your sight picture breaks.

The enemy uses shame to goad you into continuing to espouse a false belief, do not let him manipulate you.

In this video you can see a continuous shot for 2.5 hours of garlic bread going up to the edge of space, you can see the curvature of the earth getting more pronounced though subtle from 32km and up: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YKAblynZYhI

Don't take it from me try to debunk anything on this guys youtube channel: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=su-fmoZUkF8

The argument in the above video made about stars is absolute proof flat earth is a joke and the guy has hours of content of this caliber.

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Don't argue with these people they are trolls getting paid to waste your energy. Most if not every one is a troll. They don't believe what they are saying they're just doing it to waste your time and energy. It's a common tactic.

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I completely agree. But as I've repeatedly offered here, it's not about the shills and useful idiots. It's about the potential lurkers they hope to prey upon. Unfortunately, not everyone is as savvy as you.

Just the same, I do appreciate your good will. It remains good advice.

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Images of earth from high altitudes does not prove satellites, again this is logical fallacy. High altitude balloons are a perfectly reasonable explanation.

Please inform me how airplanes prove earth is round

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From my days learning ATC, the distance that a plane travels is greater than the distance on the ground, because it has to cover the "arc".

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Your position on sat is already invalidated. Show me the miles of teathers. Since you can't, you don't have an argument. Your position is disproved. Next.

Please inform me how airplanes prove earth is round

The contrary is actually you guy's common talking point. You state your premise and I'll destroy it. Go.

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You're really taking this flat earth thing seriously

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It's fun destroying stupidity. Also helps protect the potential victims these people prey upon.

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"Oh, you're into right wing conspiracies? You think the jews did what? I bet you think the world is flat, too"

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Flat-earthers point to the supposed "fact" that ships do not drop below the horizon when they sail out into the ocean (which is false). Then they completely ignore videos taken from orbit showing the round Earth rotating below. It's a retarded viewpoint. Intelligent men have known the Earth was round centuries before the birth of Jesus.

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Gather around niggers and faggots for it is that special time of the year where i once again endeavor to educate a certain type who sees it all except that which is clear before him. For those of you who are familiar with how straight lines work you will appreciate this expansion.

Resolution power:

Lets talk about resolution. Resolution is the quality of the image, how many points are distinguishable from each other enabling greater detail/clarity. For instance if you were to place two dots as close to each other on a piece of paper as you possibly could while still being able to easy see them as two dots. Then place that paper across the room on the wall from you would be able to back away from the paper until a distance between you and it is reached so that the two dots no longer are distinguishable from each other, but now appear to be one single dot.

It looks like a single dot but we know its not, while staring at the single dot one could use a phone camera to zoom in and clearly see its still two dots. This would be the resolution power difference between the human eye and the device. The human eye has a 0.0003 radian resolution, it can detect objects 30cm apart at a distance of 1km assuming 20/20 vision. This is why we use telescopes to view things that are far, and microscopes to view things that are small.

Vanishing point:

The vanishing point is the optical illusion created when circumstances are met so that two objects appear to have converged into one. This is a direct result of the Angle of view and Resolution power of the observer in respect to the observed.


With our understanding now of Resolution and Perspective we can move forward to explaining why objects disappear "bottom up". You could for instance lay down on your stomach in a field and have your friend walk away from you and you'll notice that as he moves further away from you his legs will start to merge/ disappear into the grass before his torso. This is because if you were to draw a straight line from the lens of your eye to where you are looking at your friends legs as he moves away the grass will start to intersect the line of observation thus creating two points that no longer become distinguishable from each other. If you were to stand up the tangent point of the grass and your friends legs now becomes two objects that are easy to distinguish from each other.

Ship sinking effect/ bottom up/ false horizon/

Now lets go to a beach on a clear day with a pair of binoculars and a super zoom camera. If you were to lay down on the beach and watch a ship sail away until it starts to disappear bottom up, this effect being caused by the waves between the observer and observed becoming converged by limits of angle AND resolution. Now stand up and notice how the same boat came back into view, this is because the two points now become observably further away from each other allowing them to be distinguished.

https://files.catbox.moe/y1xr0k.PNG

In the same standing position let the ship move further away so that it appears as it did when laying down, only this time use a pair of binoculars to observe. Instead of modifying angle, we modified resolution. The points between the ship and the lens over the binoculars now being easier to distinguish as individual points.

Waiting for the ship to completely vanish now bring out the super zoom camera and focus on the ship. All done without adjusting height of observation (angle of view) or position of observation.

When a ship or object disappears bottom up it has nothing to do with the curvature of the Earth. This phenomena is how your eyes work and would be observed on BOTH a globe model or a flat model of the Earth. The height required to actually observe the curvature effect of the earth is between 35,000 FT and 40,000 FT provided accesses to 60 degree FOV.

All arguments saying X object disappearing proves Y are null and void, their promoters low IQ niggers that had to have someone hold their hand on how your own eyes work.

https://files.catbox.moe/l1v72w.PNG

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“ Then they completely ignore videos taken from orbit showing the round Earth rotating below.”

Fucking WIDE ANGLE LENS DUMB SHIT.

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And you believe in the Apollo moon landings also I’m sure.

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I came in to say exactly this. It should be common knowledge on this site at least where the term "conspiracy theory" got it's meaning today. It was a CIA created term meant to smear people who looked too closely into the Kennedy assassination. Anyone who thought it was suspicious that the Israeli mafia henchman Jacob Rubenstein murdered the only suspect was lumped together with UFOs, lizard people, and mind control rays that can be blocked by tin foil.

Many real world conspiracies exist that don't require magic voodoo. The Manhattan project, pre-Normandy landings disinfo campaign, Lend Lease technology transfers, operation paperclip, MK Ultra, Tavistock institute, Project Mockingbird, Gulf of Tonkin, assassination programs, 9/11, etc. If the normies think they'll get lumped in with the flat earthers and paranoid schizophrenics for looking into anything, they'll politely ignore all the stuff that's been openly revealed and is otherwise public knowledge.

And real mind control rays are blocked by turning off the fucking TV.

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Space is fake

Earth is flat

Moon is fake

Nukes are fake

Viruses are fake

The "idiot's platform" is broadening all the time.

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The only one I question is nukes as a fake fear tactic.

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Nukes are definitely a fear tactic. But they are also real.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Plowshare

The more you dig, the more you find which confirms nukes.

https://youtu.be/T-o4h0eoLlc

https://youtu.be/FokopVKMgdU

You're an agent of israel aren't you?

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Lol. Honestly can't tell if serious or sarcastic.

Oh, I see. More projection immediately after the other jew left crying. Sheesh. Nothing obvious about you yuys.

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Because flat earth videos will make people think through a different viewpoint, and the very idea of people thinking at all irritates and irks the jews

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This is my conclusion as well.

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After realizing that flat earth was one rabbit hole I never actually looked into myself, I decided to watch some of the videos the flat earthers were posting. I was introduced to some of the points with the first video, and then after that found Eric dubay and imo he explains everything pretty well. He's also got great videos on other topics as well, like how macro evolution and dinosaurs are made up bullshit, how the calendar was basically created to make us constantly out of tune with nature, how the US is a corporation, lot of fun stuff to look into.

Here are some links.

Flat Earth | Dave Murphy on Late Night Talk Show - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkLl7C5BkmQ

200 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Ball (Eric Dubay) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEaHjPF47_E

Eric Dubay Answers Everyone's Flat Earth Questions - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NM5q22j5VI

How Everything Works on Flat Earth (Eric Dubay)- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_bJYXS9p4A

Evolution and Dinosaurs Debunked (Eric Dubay) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtCIp9sgiE0

The Manipulation of Time (Eric Dubay) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc1zdLHc61k

The United States Incorporated (Eric Dubay) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-DNWqWBbkA

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200 proofs and videos like this: https://files.catbox.moe/kopeko.mp4

I saw 3-4 other videos with 30-mile camera shots and they're all removed from YouTube. Every single one WTF?

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Yeah I've seen shit like that before. I'm still not really sure what to believe tbh, but I'm leaning towards the FE side. I guess I believe that none of us knows an actual fucking thing about how the universe works outside of what we can see for ourselves (which is basically fuck all)

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I don't think I've ever seen someone debunk themselves so quickly in a video before.

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If you think Eric Dubay is intelligent, then by definition, you are less intelligent than Eric Dubay.

Talk about a self own.

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There's always someone thats smarter, better looking, or better at something than you are. I'm not into having a dick measuring contest with everyone about every trait a person has.

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Eric Dubay denies the holocaust.. so don’t listen to this kike.

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Flat-earth advocates use the same kind of false reasoning that is used to support conspiracy theories, such as those that surround 9-11.

  • Lies, falsehoods and misinformation are accepted as truths.
  • Unsupported assertions are made.
  • The laws of physics are outraged.
  • The laws of probability are ignored.
  • Faulty reasoning is used.
  • Dubunkers are attacked and maligned.
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Yes. Flat earth exists to undermine legitimate conspiracy discussion.

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Same reason AJ is banned. "Bad boys" want to partake of the forbidden fruit. It's to pull in people who would otherwise dismiss it.

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So being a complete retard irks the jews? Funny that flat earth was spread by the joos according to the top comment and second highest comment says it's banned by the joos.

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Prove to us it’s round, (((Einstein))).

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You don't need to be Einstein. I think some people like the attention that comes with being dumb

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Are you implying that censorship only affects people who tell the truth? Reality is anything can get deleted, jannies get a dopamine rush from finding an excuse to delete any content.

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The important question is WHO is deleting / censoring. That helps frame things. So if the JEWS are censoring it.. ?

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I don't know, they might be fucking with us and expecting a Streisand effect, so people create these kinds of posts.

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That’s a big “might be”. Why censor it? Name one other thing that gets censored like this. Why the fuck do “ancient aliens” get pushed so hard on “history channel”?

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>a rational real science minded person would never get emotional and name call people for a theory

unless it was completely retarded, like flat earth

edit: actual answer to question - my opinion - because it puts everything else they block into the same category, puts things like 'vaccine mortality' at the same level as 'flat earth'.

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IMHO flat earth isn't even a good rhetorical device to get peoole to think ousdie the box

The matrix concept is amazing. Literally unprovable. Maybe I am just a brain in a jar??

In 2021 you can buy a fucking toy rocket with a camera and fly it up to see earth's curvature for less than $1000.

If I could prove we live in the matrix for $1000, id be a pretty worthless fuck for not doing the experiment then making YouTube videos about how we absolutely live in the matrix

Logic is hard and most people are shit at it. Hence how you get degenerate bullshit like critical theory

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With what lens? A wide angle lens? Get real.

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Flat earth is an interesting theory. I believe 100% the moonwalk was staged. Exposure film shouldn't work in space if the bombardment of particles is true. Ask yourself why Buzz Aldrin refuses to swear on the bible that he walked on the moon? Why is it they can only go to places that cannot be verified by us on earth? Why did they "destroy" the technology to get to the moon? Seems to me it should be as easy as navigating to mars. IT should be some calculations and trajectory prediction. There's a vested interest in us sending our tax dollars to NASA. I just wonder because theres literally no footage of earth spinning. If there were really spacecraft hovering above earth with independent thrusters then why no videos of the spinning globe? ON the long distance space probes they couldn't take one fucking video of the earth spinning? MARS rover literally had a fucking FLY spotted on it. The landscape that was shown as "MARS" has been found already on earth. NASA is a sham. SPACEX is a sham. All control mechanism's.

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FE can't be real if every other planet, star (hell even electron) we see is round. Nature reuses shapes, and a spinning object is not going to be flat.

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If you're an ant on a pool table and all you see are round objects around you, it's a logical fallacy to assume the table is round too.

Also planets aren't spheres, they are lights as proven by amateur video.

https://youtu.be/cLJVYjKIIBg

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Sorry, doesn't compute. If I am an ant on a pool table, I am clearly not standing on a ball or claiming the other balls are flat. I would be standing on the galaxy plane if that is your equivalent.

If the earth was flat how can a round moon rotate around it without changing the distance? I have been all over the world the the size is the same. I also wore contacts and glasses at one time in my life so I understand why large moonrises exist at times.

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Which logical fallacy is that?

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You don’t live on an ice cream truck just because you see one out of your window. And “round” is different from “sphere.”

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Is sphere closer to round or flat?

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A spheroid, or ellipsoid of revolution, is a quadric surface obtained by rotating an ellipse about one of its principal axes; in other words, an ellipsoid with two equal semi-diameters. A spheroid has circular symmetry.

Revolution means arc which means curved or round. All spheriods have some measure of round. The earth is both round and spherical.

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" I just wonder because theres literally no footage of earth spinning" What about long exposure pictures from different location at night showing the axial spin of the earth relative to the night sky? Like this (thumbs.dreamstime.com)

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Get above the article circle in summer you can actually see the sun rotating around you rather than a sun rise sun set.

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If anything that just proves we're stationary and the lights above us rotate on their set paths.

How could stars "millions" Of light years away, that do NOT orbit us, make perfect circles around us?

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There is footage of the earth spinning. Geosynchronous sats have been a thing for a while.

Weather sats also take pictures over time.

https://youtu.be/PWWGDL5tC_I

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no footage of earth spinning

There are at least four live (youtu.be) videos of earth at this very moment.

This is a deep fake by the jews and the central bankers.

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Then why is it censored so much?

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I find it funny because this could easily be CGI. I'm talking about a space probe leaving our earth and then looking back and taking pictures of our earth spinning. Nobody walked on the moon and nobody has been to mars. I urge you to prove otherwise.

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I don't understand what you want. There are photos of the earth from space. Are you expecting them to be blurry because the earth is spinning? Are you looking for an uncut video of a probe leaving earth, then turning around to show it?

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Blanket statements like "film doesn't work in space" is so concentrated with bullsit, its something only a manuere factory can compete with. That bullshit is so thick. How do you flat earthers live with yourselves making false premises up to suit your theory?

Where is the fly on Mars rover?

What is this magical radiation that would ruin film?

Where is the landscape video that has been found on earth?

Let me guess, you just collect hypothesis but haven't actually investigated any aforementioned ideas.

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by the way the landscape that is used as mars is devon island in canada.

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If that is where it is filmed why has not one person shown a single photo that matches Mars terrain? Just one photo.

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and the fly video and the landscape analysis has been floating around since the rover deployed. I will dig it up and produce it tomorrow for you.

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If you change your mind, I won't blame you.

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hypothesis' would be the correct use. What do you mean where is the magical radiation? Supposedly space is filled with all kinds of radiation radiating from stars' exothermic processes. If space is full of radiation the film would have been nothing but a white screen for the entire recording. I am not stating that the earth is flat, but I do wholeheartedly believe that the film of the moonwalk is absolute bullshit. That combined with Buzz Aldrin being a stammering pussy and not swearing on the bible that he walked on the moon. If he really did then why not just fucking swear on the bible that you did? Its like saying to swear on the bible you went to work. Any abject person should have no problem admitting that if they really did. The prize of the grand science deception is your eternal soul.

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Anyone who thinks the Apollo moon walks didn't occur has lost contact with reality. Seriously, get a grip.

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Anyone who blindly believes that it happened because they showed you a hollywood reproduction has lost it. Exposure film doesnt work with all the Rays bouncing around space. And thats what they supposedly used. It may be possible that they really did land and walk on the moon but that fucking film is not an actual film of it. Period.

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>The emotional name calling attacks from the normies against flag earth people raises red flags with me and from what I've seen the flat earth people talk and act reasonable and rational

So if unicorns suddenly became the subject and people insulted them as well, does that mean there's something to unicorns? Would that raise flags?

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I think this is a straw man argument but I'm not 100% certain.

Muddying the waters with topics and questions that don't matter as well

Shill tactics 101

Nice work yall need a new play book

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I don't know if that's a straw man, seems like a comparable assumption. To qualify as a straw man, I would have to build a false premise (something you didn't say) and refute it. Here, I'm merely using the same logic and applying it equally to something else without refuting anything to see if I can make the same conclusion. I can't. Ergo, the logic is wrong.

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I've watched and read some flat earth stuff. They actually have a few interesting points like flight times. My life experience leads me to disagree with the over all conclusion (though almost nothing would surprise me at this point), but they should be allowed to speak.

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What is the flight times point?

Flight times don't seem to line up with distances assuming a round earth. Specifically to south america from the old world.

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Would have to see the math used. As a side note, I'm a pilot and accurate distance is critical to safe flights.

Planes measure available safe flight distance (great circle distance) based on consumption per hour. To know the duration, you have to know your speed and distance. You then use this to calculate the minimum required fuel plus FAA mandatory reserves. This in turn effects weight.

Carrying extra weight in fuel means wasted money on the weight (as it changes your angle of attack). If anything odd were going on here, it would require all pilots and airlines be involved in a conspiracy.

https://www.greatcirclemapper.net/

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What life experiences?

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The earth is round. If you think it’s flat. You are a retard

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Flat earth is proven easily. It's all about the kikes making you question your own god given senses.

Fuck off kikes. You're day is coming. This site is infested.

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Because this is the truth they don't want you to know!

If you get triggered by flatearth, you're a NPC!

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Can anyone here prove the Earth is a globe? Also have you considered WHY it’s so important that the “globe/space” model is pushed so hard? What if.. we were the center of creation? What if.. we weren’t “star dust” but God’s creations and not every star in the sky is another sun to another solar system with potential for life.. making us SPECIAL? I just woke up so not in best state of mind but think about it. Either we’re just another spec of dust or we are GOD’S CREATION.

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Or what if we are the sum of all things ie- one within all, all within one - and that we merely have manifested our ecosystem & surroundings to sustain that which gives us life; that there is no 'one creator' that instead everything is within the flow of energy that gives way to decentralized awareness via segregation of differences where those differences cluster together as organic life forms who also happen to carry within them a potent flow of energy called blood - an energy so powerful it can transcend generations, bodies, minds, and perhaps reach the point where it too can create new worlds within.

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To be God's creation doesn't mandate that we have to be at the center of the universe

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Its a psyop. Or just a trolling thought experiment. I can't tell which. There are no people who actually believe the world is flat. But lefttards cant go a day without bringing up 'muh flatearthers' like its some real group of serious and organzied people, and then lumping all their opponents into the same catagory s them. AFAICT, flatearthers dont exactly exist. The have some shitty website and forum with like a handful of comments from fewer accounts over the last couple years. It is most likely a way for chosens to smear people who dissent with any of their BS as being JUST LIKE tEh fLaTeRtUrsz

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Originally it started as a learning debate thought experiment. It remains this to this day.

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