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I love the constitution but it was written to limit the power of government. The tyranny we face today comes largely from and through corporations, which the constitution holds no power over. Do we need a new, additional, type of constitution to protect us from corporations and if so should we wait on Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates to draft it for us?

I love the constitution but it was written to limit the power of government. The tyranny we face today comes largely from and through corporations, which the constitution holds no power over. Do we need a new, additional, type of constitution to protect us from corporations and if so should we wait on Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates to draft it for us?

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Eliminate corporate personhood

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Mussolini said facism is when corporations create the laws. When corporations rule.

Citizens united = corporations are people

Too big too fail policy.

Honk honk

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But those corporations are now inextricable from the state. We do not have anything resembling Capitalism or the free market. Lawmaking has been delegated to agencies, NGOs, corporations and terrorist groups in order to make it invisible and unaccountable, but the lines of power all trace back to the state. This is nothing new. The founders who wrote the constitution were well acquainted with centuries of exactly this kind of corruption.

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Good points. But how is the constitution supposed to be applied when they outsource tyranny to corporations?

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2nd amendment. The right to throw off the tyrants.

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The constitution, as it is currently written, gives the citizenry enough power that we could be the dominant force in our own nation, and could regulate these tyrannical megacorps. If the citizenry had the wisdom and courage to enforce it.

As long as Americans will sit by, watching their porn, playing their video games, and feeding their junk food addictions, all while their current constitution is being torn to shreds, no new constitution could be useful.

We could have a perfectly written constitution, specifically addressing all our modern problems, and guaranteeing all our desired freedoms. But the American population would largely rely on politicians to make sure the will of the constitution is done, and on media corporations to inform them if that process breaks down. Barring any notification from Fox News or CNN that we're losing our country to the small handful of rich powerbrokers that fund both politician and journalist alike, most Americans will be fine with popping their anti-depressants and distracting themselves into oblivion.

When Americans are willing to hear out the small number of voices telling them uncomfortable truths about the dire nature of their nation and society... when Americans are willing to fight for what little they already have, then maybe it will be useful to speak of what we can add to it.

Until they are willing to fight, we are just discussing prettier shackles.

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Those corporations wouldn't hold they power they do without the tyranny of government regulation and permitting over every single aspect of the marketplace.

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Soros is spending billions to make us think it is a thing of the past. He even pays people to post things on websites like this one

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We should just rename America and drop the facade

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New/updated constitution here: