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This is something ive noticed at my own job. They decided to create this flagship product using a completely exprimental Microsoft stack. How experimental? No intellisense support on the pages, no live/auto reload, no linters/parsers for 50% of the code base, json files everywhere. Just a complete mess. Now im just getting frustrated, because the linters say one thing, and then the code base blows up. But more importantly, this comes off as a massive case of complete overkill. What was wrong with a REST API and divorced front end? You know, the industry standard since 10 years ago. But no, lets go and reinvent the wheel with some insane product line.

I once interviewed with Microsoft, and they were laughing at the fact someone was using this product line in a production setting. Like they thought i had just said a bad joke or something.

This is something ive noticed at my own job. They decided to create this flagship product using a completely exprimental Microsoft stack. How experimental? No intellisense support on the pages, no live/auto reload, no linters/parsers for 50% of the code base, json files everywhere. Just a complete mess. Now im just getting frustrated, because the linters say one thing, and then the code base blows up. But more importantly, this comes off as a massive case of complete overkill. What was wrong with a REST API and divorced front end? You know, the industry standard since 10 years ago. But no, lets go and reinvent the wheel with some insane product line. I once interviewed with Microsoft, and they were laughing at the fact someone was using this product line in a production setting. Like they thought i had just said a bad joke or something.

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when they let women in

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I work with places that have no women and still suck

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Well, for starters software is not engineering any more than garbage men. Next is the fact software is full of women and niggers and tons of indians making it a third world endeavor these days.

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Well, for starters software is not engineering any more than garbage men.

Your an idiot.

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I wouldn't go so far as to say software engineering isn't engineering, but it's definitely a different field then classical, Newtonian Physics engineering.

I also think the culture around software engineering is a problem, and a big part of when engineers fucking suck now.

A lot of the techniques used in software development just don't translate well mechanical/structural/electrical/whatever else.

A perfect example is design of experments. Sure, that shit works great when you can run thousands of iterations on a computer, and if something fails, you just restart. However, when you start trying to run DOEs on physical components, which need to be built, installed on testers, and run through however many cycles you need, it's just not practical to get enough iterations to have a meaningful data set.

And simulation man, fuck I hate simulation. Sure, there is value in using it, but without physical testing to verify the output, it's really easy to get lead down a dead end.

Also, if you can't simulate the hungover dude in the plant in Mexico that is actually going to manufacture the component, I would question the validity of your simulation.

At the end of the day, I blame millennials. My first engineering job was a bunch of old dudes who did amazing sketches with calculations on fucking engineering paper, then wrote memos to file to document the results. Since then, it's basically been a bunch of late 20s/early 30s morons who couldn't write a memo if it saved their life. They spend more time creating models based on empirical data then the do actually understanding how their component works.

Fuck this shit. Sometimes I wished I had just kept laying brick.

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Well then I guess garbage men are engineers

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Um...sweetie, they like to be called 'sanitation engineers'

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Non-Whites and women have ruined the entire job market.

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Most engineering is a joke. Ive worked with new engineers that know jack shit. You'll get some big headed fag straight from school and they wont even know how to use an oscope or dmm or spectrum analyzer or freq generator ( the list goes fucking on). Dont even get me started if they are fucking sand nigger 'engineers'. I used to do a lot of proof of concept and prototyping and having to do and know several disciplines the amount of retardation is ridiculous.

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they wont even know how to use an oscope or dmm or spectrum analyzer or freq generator

Standard tools in tech jobs in the military. You know, a job you can get with a HS diploma or equivalent. Then again, it was mostly whites in those jobs as the monkeys were either out for drugs/violence or they were busy sucking officer cock for promotions(more literally than I would like to admit). In typical military fashion of course, those capable and good at their jobs weren't promoted.

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I'm not in coding, but in my industry most engineers under the age of about 50 are fairly worthless. Creativity is dead, service is given when convenient, billing amounts are outrageous, and whatever the client wants is nothing more than a passing afterthought.

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I feel like for all the mess ups i created by now, they would have fired me or something. But no, the head count seems more important than the work. Its so demoralizing, i just want them to pay me severance, and theyre so adamant on NOT firing me

microsoft is still some of the worst software. look at how the military's computer system works. absolute shit. thats how they do business; expect shitty service.

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You'll find NIH, inexperience, and egotism are usually the driving force behind these things.

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egotism is a big thing, so many managers and higher up just do something, and dump the problem back onto someone else, and then expect you to fix it.

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Just in time for the next gen of self driving vehicles.

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What year will self driving vehicles become standard?

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When the government says so, shut up and put on your mask.

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Soon after they roll out, can't have people deciding their own destinations after all can you?

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Most universities don't teach programmers how to manage a project or to work well on teams. So you end up a bunch of stereotypical introverts that think they are a coding gods.

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My favorite is design patterns. DP has its uses, and there are cases where yes, a DP makes sense. HOWEVER, these times should come naturally. Instead I see devs forcing a design pattern that clearly doesnt belong so they can brag about how neat and modular their application is. Except there is zero purpose behind it except bragging rights

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Diversity hires.

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