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What’s a reasonable amount to charge for labor for a 20x24 one story shed/barn?

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Board and batten siding Just gonna put the sill on blocks Two windows One barn door Birdsmouth rafters Shingles

Everything simple as possible

I am a newb. Only building things on my own since ‘Rona. Went to YouTube U.

No insulation or finish work at all. Just a big wooden shed.

What’s a reasonable amount to charge for labor for a 20x24 one story shed/barn? Edit. Board and batten siding Just gonna put the sill on blocks Two windows One barn door Birdsmouth rafters Shingles Everything simple as possible I am a newb. Only building things on my own since ‘Rona. Went to YouTube U. No insulation or finish work at all. Just a big wooden shed.

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If they are using plywood i would assume over $1M

[–] [deleted] • 3 pts

ALL lumber prices are at all time highs thanks to city assholes moving out to the country thanks to a year's worth of nigger rioting.

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Considering building with human bones and skin actually.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt (edited )

Too many unknowns, you need to be waaay more specific. Type of construction? Does include foundation/slab? Excavation? Electricity? Water? etc etc.

Edit: Your edit to add vague outline is still no help. On blocks? So it will just blow over with the first wind gust? Board and batten? Real? T111? Who supplies what? What area? On and on. This is so vague I hope it is a joke.

Honestly, anybody who would hire you would be an absolute fool from what I am seeing here.

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[–] [deleted] • 1 pt (edited )

Seems pretty lost if he is serious. Even though I was a bit of a dick, I am actually willing to help. I even fired up Chief Architect and whipped out two versions of a basic plan - a 20x24, and a 24x20, not knowing which way he meant the roof, but no response so oh well. The reality is if you can't calc out the basic design and rough materials list for something simple like this on a napkin you probably should not even try to do it, because it will just be trainwreck.

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Hahahahaha, fuckface. I'm not sensitive. And yes, only an idiot would hire me. Too bad there are no idiots out there. Yup, I've drawn it, it's just that it's so simple that I thought 20'x24' box with a shed roof would describe it. But... no. It does not.

But seriously, folks. I appreciate any feedback whatsoever. I have built a couple dozen silly sheds, the largest of which were about 10x15 or so, so I've never dealt with a floor joist over 10'. 20' is ludicrous with what I was planning. I ran my plan by a family member and he (like you) had a good laugh at my blocks idea. So the client is down to 12x24 which I can wrap my head around. We don't have weather up here that throws many sheds of blocks, so it should be fine. Could also use sono tubes but, boring. I'm thinking of laying down crushed gravel, blocks, levelling them. PT 4x4's for a sort of sill, levelling again, Building the 12oc 2x6 pt floor joists (levelling those) and throwing down 3/4" cdx for the floor. Then just stick framing the walls. I forget which ones have the california corners but I'll figure it out. Double header of 2x6"s or 8s for the barn door. I think it's going to be a 4x12 pitch as is, which might not be cool. Then blocks between the studs to attach board, then battens. At some point I will put the roof on. Probably after the walls. Definitely after the floor. It would be 2x6 birdsmouth rafters, about 14' i think. again, these might be too short as the pitch will probably need to be 6x12.

This is not my first career, I've just fallen in love with building things recently so I tend to bite of more than I can chew and force myself to figure it out - and I have a dear family member who doesn't let me make huge engineering mistakes. I also have you cunts.

But materials cost what they cost, my original question was more about what is reasonable to charge for my labor. I've missed a few quotes lately and I was getting gun shy. You know the feeling. "Oh gee, am I charging too much?" Yes. Probably. I usually bill myself out at $50/hour. Stop laughing, you dick. Gas is expensive. And I have a tape measure 'n sheeeit. I don't deal with the Law, btw. I only do stuff that's out in the sticks and where I am, no one much bothers. Combine that with retards fleeing the cities (like me) and you have a great tradesman market.
But yeah, I'm usually in over my head. No one's died so far and I'm working outside so fuckit.

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right now there are no materials being imported . materials are 5x expensive and quotes change daily as prices are raised even hourly. a year ago, 4k .. now maybe 15k

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Houses locally are being built for $70/sq. ft. so I'd expect less than that.

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You aren't a professional. You could charge minimum wage per hour + materials and a pro could more than likely do it better and faster for less.

Just charge by the hour with a price not to exceed....

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You won't get anybody to work like that for less than $10.00 bucks an hour,any less than that you'll spend most of your time finding them hiding or shirking + they won't know which end of the hammer to hold: Good Luck!!

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Get multiple estimates.

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I’m building it. Wondering what to charge.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Step 1: Design

Step 2: Materials Cost

Step 3: Labor Cost

Assuming you are serious- you need to follow the actual flow path of construction. Have you drawn it yet? I mean at minimum, drawing it on a simple drag and drop architectural type of program, or at least on a sheet of paper? Do you have to sweat building permits? Zoning? Then decide on structure and calculate the materials cost. (who is paying for materials?) After the first two steps, then you estimate Labor.

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Well, that changes everything. Maybe add it to the post. If you have nothing better to do then just make sure you charge a reasonable rate and that materials are covered.

If it is for a potential wife then maybe charge less.