You'll be on that plan while they hire your replacement
You'll be on that plan while they hire your replacement
Look for a new job while you still have one
Look for a new job while you still have one
What im currently doing as my backup plan. Generally, ive been told a PIP is mostly a pre fire formality anyways. The company is nice, but the management in combination with a ton of issues sucks the life out of you.
What im currently doing as my backup plan. Generally, ive been told a PIP is mostly a pre fire formality anyways. The company is nice, but the management in combination with a ton of issues sucks the life out of you.
I view these struggles like playing tug of war with an elephant. You are determined and become strong because of the fight. But inevitably you will never win. Its better to let go of the rope. When you do you'll realize exactly how strong you've become but even more importantly your hands are now free to utilize your new found strength in a more self empowering struggle. Good luck to you.
I view these struggles like playing tug of war with an elephant. You are determined and become strong because of the fight. But inevitably you will never win. Its better to let go of the rope. When you do you'll realize exactly how strong you've become but even more importantly your hands are now free to utilize your new found strength in a more self empowering struggle. Good luck to you.
That's what im thinking honestly, whilst the company is nice and prestigious, ive come to the conclusion i would rather work for a small white owned company, over a humongous monolithic company. That and ive come to the realization i honestly dont care that much about work anymore, its a job, i get paid, and i do the work. However, i never want to be beholden to my job, so as to identify myself by what i am doing career wise.
That's what im thinking honestly, whilst the company is nice and prestigious, ive come to the conclusion i would rather work for a small white owned company, over a humongous monolithic company. That and ive come to the realization i honestly dont care that much about work anymore, its a job, i get paid, and i do the work. However, i never want to be beholden to my job, so as to identify myself by what i am doing career wise.
I want you to work harder without more pay Here look at this: you aren't 'performing' the way that we want you to Work harder or you're fired I'm giving you a second chance, so I'm actually the nice guy It's your own fault that you were fired Why do all of our employees suck?
Hey, did you hear that we can hire an Indian for half the price? If he doesn't 'perform' we can just send him back We could afford two for the price of one! For saving the company so much money I expect to be paid big bux at my executive level
>I want you to work harder without more pay
Here look at this: you aren't *'performing'* the way that we want you to
Work harder or you're fired
I'm giving you a second chance, so I'm actually the nice guy
It's your own fault that you were fired
Why do all of our employees suck?
Hey, did you hear that we can hire an Indian for half the price?
If he doesn't *'perform'* we can just send him back
We could afford two for the price of one!
For saving the company so much money I expect to be paid big bux at my executive level
The only unreasonable part of this is expecting two Indians to be able to work harder than one white.
The only unreasonable part of this is expecting two Indians to be able to work harder than one white.
You're assuming that they came to this conclusion by using reason.
You're assuming that they came to this conclusion by using reason.
Let me guess its wypipo fault. Its always the white man keeping you down.
Just kidding!
I'd do the job hunt, a PIP is precursor to letting you go. It provides the cause the company needed to keep from being sued.
Let me guess its wypipo fault. Its always the white man keeping you down.
Just kidding!
I'd do the job hunt, a PIP is precursor to letting you go. It provides the cause the company needed to keep from being sued.
If I ever got a PIP I would either immediately quit if I had the financial resources or continue playing their game with the expectation of being fired while I searched for another job. Termination is often the expected conclusion. If the PIP is unreasonable or vague then they've already decided the outcome.
If I ever got a PIP I would either immediately quit if I had the financial resources or continue playing their game with the expectation of being fired while I searched for another job. Termination is often the expected conclusion. If the PIP is unreasonable or vague then they've already decided the outcome.
I had an old Chevy truck I once put on the same plan. I trashed the Quadrajet and installed an Edelbrock and it instantly became more productive and performed way better. Maybe you could use a jet or metering rod replacement at the very least.
I had an old Chevy truck I once put on the same plan. I trashed the Quadrajet and installed an Edelbrock and it instantly became more productive and performed way better. Maybe you could use a jet or metering rod replacement at the very least.
get the unemployment
get the unemployment
Wait until they fire you so that you can collect unemployment, i.e., getting back some of the money stolen from you in taxes.
Make sure you get everything they tell you in writing (email), and how you informed them that the issues were on their end, not on yours, and print them out so that if they try to dispute your unemployment claim, you'll have written evidence to support you.
Start applying to other jobs and/or spinning off your own business doing side-gigs on Upwork or other places to build up some good reviews.
Wait until they fire you so that you can collect unemployment, i.e., getting back some of the money stolen from you in taxes.
Make sure you get everything they tell you in writing (email), and how you informed them that the issues were on their end, not on yours, and print them out so that if they try to dispute your unemployment claim, you'll have written evidence to support you.
Start applying to other jobs and/or spinning off your own business doing side-gigs on Upwork or other places to build up some good reviews.
One fun thing to do is exactly what your supervisor tells you to do. Nothing more, nothing less. You have to take what they say literally, no matter how ridiculous the outcome. This might be difficult for people who have no experience being pedantic, but it's amazingly effective at highlighting how stupid your boss is.
For example, if they tell you to set up a meeting to talk about performance, set one up in your calendar. Don't invite anybody, not even them. They didn't tell you too, remember. If they tell you to finish a task before lunch, don't go to lunch until you finish the task ... even if it puts them out of compliance with labor laws. You just have to be literal and the fun can be amazing.
One fun thing to do is *exactly* what your supervisor tells you to do. Nothing more, nothing less. You have to take what they say literally, no matter how ridiculous the outcome. This might be difficult for people who have no experience being pedantic, but it's amazingly effective at highlighting how stupid your boss is.
For example, if they tell you to set up a meeting to talk about performance, set one up in your calendar. Don't invite anybody, not even them. They didn't tell you too, remember. If they tell you to finish a task before lunch, don't go to lunch until you finish the task ... even if it puts them out of compliance with labor laws. You just have to be literal and the fun can be amazing.
I'd have your ass out the door in no time if you tried that shit. Playing semantic games get you nowhere
I'd have your ass out the door in no time if you tried that shit. Playing semantic games get you nowhere
Depending on the state that could get me an early retirement courtesy of selling your boat and taking the company's settlement. If it's a state where that won't work, the subtler approach is fun too. You sabotage the company in ways that are difficult or impossible to detect.
If you're familiar with computer security, you know the principle that you can't secure a machine when your adversary has physical access. The same is true for your business. The takeaway is don't make adversaries out of your employees.
Depending on the state that could get me an early retirement courtesy of selling your boat and taking the company's settlement. If it's a state where that won't work, the subtler approach is fun too. You sabotage the company in ways that are difficult or impossible to detect.
If you're familiar with computer security, you know the principle that you can't secure a machine when your adversary has physical access. The same is true for your business. The takeaway is don't make adversaries out of your employees.
What is the job and why are you on a PIP?
What is the job and why are you on a PIP?
Some kind of Dev job, and its due to degrading performance
Some kind of Dev job, and its due to degrading performance
Is your performance degrading? If so, is there any reason for it? Work is boring (a lot of dev work is fucking monotonous), is the environment shit, you've lost your passion? Figuring out what the root cause is will guide what you should do.
If the place is shit, or they've decided for some other reason that they want you gone, then you're gone regardless. But, if the place is good, take the opportunity and lift your game. Particularly if you enjoy working with your colleagues. Do them a favor and don't suck, it makes so much work for everyone else.
In the end it will be your decision though. Do what is right for you.
Is your performance degrading? If so, is there any reason for it? Work is boring (a lot of dev work is fucking monotonous), is the environment shit, you've lost your passion? Figuring out what the root cause is will guide what you should do.
If the place is shit, or they've decided for some other reason that they want you gone, then you're gone regardless. But, if the place is good, take the opportunity and lift your game. Particularly if you enjoy working with your colleagues. Do them a favor and don't suck, it makes so much work for everyone else.
In the end it will be your decision though. Do what is right for you.
Combination of seemingly random issues. The environment is recognized as half broken, there isnt anything anyone can do to help me except to escalate it which hasnt worked in the past. The management and user stories are over engineered, and my pull requests come off as finicky. Ill review stuff with QA, only to be told to redo it because it doesnt work AFTER i reviewed it with them same day. And ive never seen people to overengineer a basic functionality such as setting a button value into 25 files. I get it, its modular, but it also makes it a humongous PITA to debug and code when someone is forcing design patterns down your throat.
There was a great conversation at one point about the over reliance on design patterns and how a lot of times they are used when not needed.
Combination of seemingly random issues. The environment is recognized as half broken, there isnt anything anyone can do to help me except to escalate it which hasnt worked in the past. The management and user stories are over engineered, and my pull requests come off as finicky. Ill review stuff with QA, only to be told to redo it because it doesnt work AFTER i reviewed it with them same day. And ive never seen people to overengineer a basic functionality such as setting a button value into 25 files. I get it, its modular, but it also makes it a humongous PITA to debug and code when someone is forcing design patterns down your throat.
There was a great conversation at one point about the over reliance on design patterns and how a lot of times they are used when not needed.
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