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I don't jump on all the conspiracy theories easily, but the mRNA stuff does sound pretty big and sketchy. Have any other vaccines used this "new technology" to date?

I don't jump on all the conspiracy theories easily, but the mRNA stuff does sound pretty big and sketchy. Have *any* other vaccines used this "new technology" to date?

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[–] • 5 pts

The other mRNA vaccines that use a hosts own cells to make proteins have never made it through animal testing before.

The failed vaccines cause the immune system to ignore the viral proteins coming out of the host's cells. Then, when the body encounters the actual virus, the immune system ignores it and the host will die from uninhibited viral replication. This seems to be what's happening with some people who take the covid-19 vaccines.

[–] • 0 pt

Auto-immune response when another cov-variant is contracted. The bodies immune system gets confused by the mRNA similarities and goes full death blossom.

[–] • 4 pts

The idea has been in development since 1990, but as far as I know this is the first public release.

[–] [deleted] • 3 pts

They tested it on animals for sars cov-1. I don't have my sauce cause I'm lazy.

[–] • 3 pts

My understanding was it was in development as a cancer treatment, and never made it out of clinical trials there either.

Its sketchy as fuck.

[–] • 1 pt

mRNA vaccines are being . Those seem to be in clinical trials which would take many years to establish if they are safe and effective.

[–] • 1 pt

Whats that? You don't like my GMO food?

[–] • 1 pt

Fauci said it will get washed out with time. Therefore, mRNA vaccines aren't permanent. Now vector vaccines like astra zeneca are seriously dangerous. Just wait for J&J vaccine. It's an old-fashioned, but safe solution. As long as we have a choice of the technology used, we'll be fine.

[–] • 3 pts

No, the J&J vaccine uses a modified Adenovirus 26 to forcefully inject the COVID spike protein's DNA into the nucleus of your cells. The modified Adenovirus is combined with various compounds including the surfactant polysorbate 80.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Their covid 19 specific antibodies will be permanent however. Keep in mind covid 19 mutates every 10 hours. The body needs more of non-specific antibodies.

https://thehighwire.com/videos/a-coming-covid-catastrophe/

[–] • 0 pt

It’s been out. And side effects there too.

[–] • 0 pt

There are other mRNA vaccines. Rabies, is one example.

[–] • 2 pts

Other mRNA vaccines are closed cells so they do not invade your DNA.

[–] • 2 pts

Yeah, this new one uses a surfactant to get into the cell walls of the host (you).

[–] • -1 pt

Far as I know. Using a virus, to cure a virus.

[–] • 3 pts (edited )

You don't know much then but let me enlighten you on the topic so you won't have an excuse later down the line, because the whole point of this debate is that the mRNA doesn't use the typical "uses a virus, to cure a virus" which has been used since vaccines first came about. This new "vaccine" uses coded messenger nanotechnology which is specific to the "covid-19" genome. It claims to be able to fight against the virus by essentially hijacking the immune system to produce the antibodies it has written in it's code. It is specific to this particular strain of the virus, and this is one of the big reason for the "sketchy" because anyone with IQ higher than a chimpanzee knows that corona-viruses evolve and mutate extremely quickly (i.e. just like the seasonal flu common cold, which itself is a type of corona-virus); and this then begs the question, that if you have the mRNA coded for "covid-19", then what happens when the next "covid-21", or "covid-26", comes along? Will you have to perpetually take nanotechnology provided by the oh so trusted big tech, big pharma, and government overlords because otherwise you can't participate in society? Are my vaccinations going to be recorded and have to be displayed in a sort of "vaccination passport" if I want to participate?

The "vaccine" in this case isn't just "sketchy" because of what it does on an anatomical level (which the public is still relatively in the dark on, particularly long term) but also what it does on both an individual and societal level.

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"i.e. just like the seasonal flu, which itself is a type of corona-virus"

Wrong. Influenza is its own class of virus. Rhinovirus (the common cold), on the other hand, is a coronavirus.

Both influenza and coronaviruses have a single strand of RNA as their genome, but that is where the genomic similarity ends. The influenza virus genome comprises 7 or 8 segments, while the coronavirus has one long strand. Influenza virus RNA is what is known as ‘negative sense RNA’. This means that its sequence is the mirror image of the correct code for proteins and a complementary strand must be made from it before production of new viruses within a host cell can proceed. In contrast, the coronavirus genome is ‘positive sense’ which means it can act as messenger RNA and code for proteins.

[–] • 0 pt

Thanks for the correction, had heard it was one or the other but didn't remember it was the common cold and not the flu which was a coronavirus.