What does everyone think of TV Show Rick and Morty?

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Can you elaborate on the PC Shenanigans part? Also, the child porn could be an extremely lewd comedy skit Dan Harmon did in the late 2000s that supposedly parodied the show Dexter https://youtu.be/F6M3-R0YVxg

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Also, the child porn could be an extremely lewd comedy skit Dan Harmon did in the late 2000s that supposedly parodied the show Dexter.

Maybe, but that's not what's being claimed here, or elsewhere. The argument that R&M has child porn in it is a false narrative. People that continue to claim that it does are either doing so deliberately to mislead people or are ignorantly parroting those around them. I can think of a dozen scenes between South Park and Family Guy that are just as bad, if not worse, than anything Rick & Morty has put out. It's ludicrous to attack a cartoon teenager in lingerie withing a dream sequence or an animated, make-believe creature dry humping a stuffed animal as child porn when a character like Quagmire exists or Butters is allowed to pimp out children.

I'll add that if what people are really upset about is that Dexter parody, then that's retarded too. I watched the first couple seasons of Dexter before I couldn't really stomach it anymore. There were scenes of him cutting up bodies that stuck with me for far longer than I wanted them too....and at the same time the audience was expected to sympathize with this psychopath. It normalized his actions in a way that made me decide to turn it off. Another show that had the same effect on me was Law & Order: SVU. I used to enjoy it but a bulk of the episodes are about some brutal rape involving minors. The scenes leave little to the imagination and the dialogue graphically explains what they can't show on tv. ...and it's not uncommon to have at least some dialogue that, in my opinion, attempts to normalize pedophilia. But where's the outrage? Dick Wolf's rape fantasy police drama has been on the air like 20 years and are people upset? No, of course not, the show wins awards and praise every fucking season.

So when Harmon makes a parody of Dexter in which the main character nobly carries out a sick & demented act for the good of everyone, I get what he's going for. And it should be pretty obvious to anyone willing to listen to reason that he wasn't making or condoning child porn. He was making a short that was clearly a parody of Dexter and no children were injured during its filming.

And when I claim that all of this is "just more PC shenanigans", I mean that nobody had a problem with a scantily clad cartoon character or an off-the-mark pedo joke until Dan Harmon came along. So I have to wonder...are people upset at child exploitation...or are they upset at Dan Harmon and are using the pedo-card to attack him?

Rosanne getting the axe was the same thing. She had been saying crazy shit for years on twitter without incident, nobody had a problem with it. ABC/DIsney even gave her a show knowing her twitter past. I'm not even sure what she tweeted was racist or just ambient driven crazy but it doesn't matter because they (media outlets) had a target on her once her show, staring a Trump supporter, was a smash hit. It didn't matter what she tweeted, they were going to find something to bring her down because they had a problem with her and her politics.

>Also, the child porn could be an extremely lewd comedy skit Dan Harmon did in the late 2000s that supposedly parodied the show Dexter. Maybe, but that's not what's being claimed here, or elsewhere. The argument that R&M has child porn in it is a false narrative. People that continue to claim that it does are either doing so deliberately to mislead people or are ignorantly parroting those around them. I can think of a dozen scenes between South Park and Family Guy that are just as bad, if not worse, than anything Rick & Morty has put out. It's ludicrous to attack a cartoon teenager in lingerie withing a dream sequence or an animated, make-believe creature dry humping a stuffed animal as child porn when a character like Quagmire exists or Butters is allowed to pimp out children. I'll add that if what people are really upset about is that Dexter parody, then that's retarded too. I watched the first couple seasons of Dexter before I couldn't really stomach it anymore. There were scenes of him cutting up bodies that stuck with me for far longer than I wanted them too....and at the same time the audience was expected to sympathize with this psychopath. It normalized his actions in a way that made me decide to turn it off. Another show that had the same effect on me was Law & Order: SVU. I used to enjoy it but a bulk of the episodes are about some brutal rape involving minors. The scenes leave little to the imagination and the dialogue graphically explains what they can't show on tv. ...and it's not uncommon to have at least some dialogue that, in my opinion, attempts to normalize pedophilia. But where's the outrage? Dick Wolf's rape fantasy police drama has been on the air like 20 years and are people upset? No, of course not, the show wins awards and praise every fucking season. So when Harmon makes a parody of Dexter in which the main character nobly carries out a sick & demented act for the good of everyone, I get what he's going for. And it should be pretty obvious to anyone willing to listen to reason that he wasn't making or condoning child porn. He was making a short that was clearly a parody of Dexter and no children were injured during its filming. And when I claim that all of this is "just more PC shenanigans", I mean that nobody had a problem with a scantily clad cartoon character or an off-the-mark pedo joke until Dan Harmon came along. So I have to wonder...are people upset at child exploitation...or are they upset at Dan Harmon and are using the pedo-card to attack him? Rosanne getting the axe was the same thing. She had been saying crazy shit for years on twitter without incident, nobody had a problem with it. ABC/DIsney even gave her a show knowing her twitter past. I'm not even sure what she tweeted was racist or just ambient driven crazy but it doesn't matter because they (media outlets) had a target on her once her show, staring a Trump supporter, was a smash hit. It didn't matter what she tweeted, they were going to find something to bring her down because they had a problem with *her* and *her politics*.

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This is one of the most sane comments I've seen regarding Rick and Morty. I've found the show to have a lot of truth to it about our world. I've found it to be quite commical and overall entertaining.

People are willing to do what it takes to prevent pedophilia from getting normalized by any means because of how bad it currently is. So that's why people have been so willing to jump on people like Dan Harmon. All to make sure that we keep our kids safe at all costs.

However, everyone misses what Justin Roiland did a little while ago. https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2018/07/26/rick-and-morty-co-creator-justin-roiland-posted-nude-drawing-of-barron-trump/

Now that obviously is wrong and can be seen as a reason to stop watching the show.

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Now that obviously is wrong and can be seen as a reason to stop watching the show

Is it? I mean, what am I even looking at? It looks like some BS doodle made on an dry erase board. If not for twitter, it probably existed for less than 30 minutes before being wiped from existence. I guess I'll assume Jim Davis didn't actually doodle it but, despite him tweeting it, it's not clear to me that Roiland sketched it either. Where was this even taken? A story board room? Someone's kitchen?

Ok so...I see a pant-less Barron playing VR while his fully clothed father stands behind him. It's not clear to me why he has no pants...but its also not clear to me why Homer and Peter are eating smurfs. Despite the nudity, there appears to be nothing sexual going on to or around Barron...is this really what people are upset about? Why?

Is it because it shows a boy's penis? If that's the case then be sure to save some vitriol for Matt & Trey for showing Cartman's penis in season 8's Good Times with Weapons and for Matt Groaning for showing Bart's penis in The Simpson's: Movie (PG-13) . I'd argue that both those examples are far worse than what Roiland tweeted since those scenes actually made it into a final product and distributed globally. Whatever it is Roiland tweeted, it doesn't appear to have gone beyond a dry erase board.

If the argument is that he was someone distributing child porn or pedo material, then I'd have to point right back to those two examples again and wonder if people believe those guys are responsible for creating and distributing child porn. Or if all those folks seeding torrents of that episode or movie would, in addition to digital piracy, be guilty of distributing child pornography?

Is the problem that, unlike Cartman or Bart, Barron is a real person? I can sympathize with this position a bit more but my response would be the same for that of a stand-up comic filmed in a small comedy club saying something horrifically offensive. These guys are artists and sometimes they gotta crack some eggs to make an omelet and not everyone is gonna like seeing how the sausage is made. When a comic gets into a small club, they're more likely to try something new...maybe it'll be way off the mark...or maybe it'll get legs and with some polish and edit, turn into a great bit.

That's what this looks like to me. Some illustrator/writer sketching out absurd things on a dry erase board for no other reason than that it may accidentally lead to something brilliant. Since it literally never made it off a drawing board (Unlike Daryl or any of the cartoons I've referenced), how angry should I really be over an artist doing what an artist does? Should a tweet of some random, absurd doodle be enough to boycott Rick & Morty? Is it so offensive that we must dismiss the creative efforts of everyone else involved in making Rick & Morty a reality? I think I'm even more convinced that this has something to do with them and little to do with protecting children from predators.

I'll add that in reading the links you provided, I came across some of the pedo jokes Michael Ian Black made on twitter. Someone would be hard pressed to defend him and the content of those tweets. Unlike the R&M creators, he has a long history of child rape & pedo jokes that leave no room for misinterpretation and, because he writes kid's books, has an audience that deliberately includes minors. Jokes or not, I wouldn't leave children unattended with him.

>Now that obviously is wrong and can be seen as a reason to stop watching the show Is it? I mean, what am I even looking at? It looks like some BS doodle made on an dry erase board. If not for twitter, it probably existed for less than 30 minutes before being wiped from existence. I guess I'll assume Jim Davis didn't actually doodle it but, despite him tweeting it, it's not clear to me that Roiland sketched it either. Where was this even taken? A story board room? Someone's kitchen? Ok so...I see a pant-less Barron playing VR while his fully clothed father stands behind him. It's not clear to me why he has no pants...but its also not clear to me why Homer and Peter are eating smurfs. Despite the nudity, there appears to be nothing sexual going on to or around Barron...is this really what people are upset about? Why? Is it because it shows a boy's penis? If that's the case then be sure to save some vitriol for Matt & Trey for showing Cartman's penis in season 8's *Good Times with Weapons* and for Matt Groaning for showing Bart's penis in The Simpson's: Movie (PG-13) . I'd argue that both those examples are far worse than what Roiland tweeted since those scenes actually made it into a final product and distributed globally. Whatever it is Roiland tweeted, it doesn't appear to have gone beyond a dry erase board. If the argument is that he was someone distributing child porn or pedo material, then I'd have to point right back to those two examples again and wonder if people believe those guys are responsible for creating and distributing child porn. Or if all those folks seeding torrents of that episode or movie would, in addition to digital piracy, be guilty of distributing child pornography? Is the problem that, unlike Cartman or Bart, Barron is a real person? I can sympathize with this position a bit more but my response would be the same for that of a stand-up comic filmed in a small comedy club saying something horrifically offensive. These guys are artists and sometimes they gotta crack some eggs to make an omelet and not everyone is gonna like seeing how the sausage is made. When a comic gets into a small club, they're more likely to try something new...maybe it'll be way off the mark...or maybe it'll get legs and with some polish and edit, turn into a great bit. That's what this looks like to me. Some illustrator/writer sketching out absurd things on a dry erase board for no other reason than that it may accidentally lead to something brilliant. Since it literally never made it off a drawing board (Unlike Daryl or any of the cartoons I've referenced), how angry should I really be over an artist doing what an artist does? Should a tweet of some random, absurd doodle be enough to boycott Rick & Morty? Is it so offensive that we must dismiss the creative efforts of everyone else involved in making Rick & Morty a reality? I think I'm even more convinced that this has something to do with them and little to do with protecting children from predators. I'll add that in reading the links you provided, I came across some of the pedo jokes Michael Ian Black made on twitter. Someone would be hard pressed to defend him and the content of those tweets. Unlike the R&M creators, he has a long history of child rape & pedo jokes that leave no room for misinterpretation and, because he writes kid's books, has an audience that deliberately includes minors. Jokes or not, I wouldn't leave children unattended with him.

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