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I'd like to ask some questions about college atheletics - especially at the higher levels - using as a discussion starter. It really gets me thinking about some things. Grant me that the winner of this fight is probably young and without much in the way of income or assets which could satisfy any potential liability. If he gets sued he's got nothing - bk and move on.

1) When atheletes in the money making programs get their face broken in the bar fight does this usually get repaired at the expense of the sports program? If so how are these expenditures recorded? Just tuck in inside of the training budget, or what?

2) Are sports program donors directed to provide support such as this by program managers (coaches, etc.)? Do they call up one of the benefactors and request that barfight-reconstructive surgery gets covered? This article makes me suspicious that this happens for some reason.

3) If number two does happen are there reporting requirements? (of course not, anon, it's just a private citizen picking up the medical bills of a person in need...)

4) Do sports institutions have programs in place to manage this conflict of interest where program staff is soliciting donations, ostensibly for the benefit of the program, but which are not part of that individual's budget and such expenditure is not managed through the normal program management channels. I'm not an accountant or lawyer - but this starts to feel filthy.

5) When the player gets fucked up in the bar fight does the sports program maintain any kind of incident reporting? Imagine your superstar player, upon which a large portion of current program revenue depends, loses a finger after sucker-punching a dude with a knife. Is this kind of incident recorded by the sports program?

6) Is this kind of incident considered a risk to the sports program? Is there a risk management strategy in place to control this? Does the sportsball program carry key-man insurance policies on some of these players? What do those premiums look like and how much do they depend on the expectation of anti-social behavior on the part of the player?

I could go on, but I'd like to understand how this shit works. I suspect that the level of corruption around college sports is every bit as bad as any poal denizen with feverish imagination could imagine.

I'd like to ask some questions about college atheletics - especially at the higher levels - using [this popular video](https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3349515/ou-football-player-spencer-jones-starts-a-fight-with-a-smaller-kid-in-a-bar-and-gets-his-ass-absolutely-whooped-when-it-turns-out-the-kid-has-a-ton-of-mma-training) as a discussion starter. It really gets me thinking about some things. Grant me that the winner of this fight is probably young and without much in the way of income or assets which could satisfy any potential liability. If he gets sued he's got nothing - bk and move on. 1) When atheletes in the money making programs get their face broken in the bar fight does this usually get repaired at the expense of the sports program? If so how are these expenditures recorded? Just tuck in inside of the training budget, or what? 2) Are sports program donors directed to provide support such as this by program managers (coaches, etc.)? Do they call up one of the benefactors and request that barfight-reconstructive surgery gets covered? This article makes me suspicious that this happens for some reason. 3) If number two does happen are there reporting requirements? (of course not, anon, it's just a private citizen picking up the medical bills of a person in need...) 4) Do sports institutions have programs in place to manage this conflict of interest where program staff is soliciting donations, ostensibly for the benefit of the program, but which are not part of that individual's budget and such expenditure is not managed through the normal program management channels. I'm not an accountant or lawyer - but this starts to feel filthy. 5) When the player gets fucked up in the bar fight does the sports program maintain any kind of incident reporting? Imagine your superstar player, upon which a large portion of current program revenue depends, loses a finger after sucker-punching a dude with a knife. Is this kind of incident recorded by the sports program? 6) Is this kind of incident considered a risk to the sports program? Is there a risk management strategy in place to control this? Does the sportsball program carry key-man insurance policies on some of these players? What do those premiums look like and how much do they depend on the expectation of anti-social behavior on the part of the player? I could go on, but I'd like to understand how this shit works. I suspect that the level of corruption around college sports is every bit as bad as any poal denizen with feverish imagination could imagine.

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1)

I assume it would be paid for by their personal health insurance policies or by the insurance policies of their parents just like if any other college student got into a bar fight who wasn't an athlete.

2) + 3)

There are NCAA rules against allowing booster money to be used to directly benefit student athletes like this. Boosters will often try to find ways around these regulations to be able to directly assist student athletes, but if the university is involved in any way then it opens them up to risk of being punished for recruitment violations.

4)

Universities have their own fund-raising efforts and a rather significant part of the athletic director's job is glad-handing with wealthy donors and alumni to solicit donations. The donations are used to fund the program itself, the facilities, the coaching staff, and the programs used to help the student athletes (think trainers and tutors). They are also used to support scholarships but every d1 university has scholarship programs and the NCAA regulates how many scholarships they can have as well as what the scholarships can be used for. One of the punishments for a university that commits recruitment violations is that the number of scholarships they're allowed to offer to student athletes is slashed for a period of time.

5) + 6)

Yes the university has staffers that try to keep the student athletes in compliance with the ncaa rules, to find if they're losing their way with things, and try to get them back on track. It's also a PR effort because the school has a lot of money riding on it. Even if they don't get any kind of punishment from the NCAA for some kind of incident involving a student athlete or their sports program, they can lose a lot of donor money or money from merchandise sales and ticket sales. I would not expect a university to have insurance for something like this, it would be too difficult to underwrite and the players aren't employees. Student athletes are considered amateurs. They receive no monetary compensation for playing and they do not have a contract with the university that requires them to continue playing. There is nothing stopping a student athlete from quitting the team or transferring to a different school except that they might lose a scholarship for doing so.

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Good points. I am not quite ready to believe that there is no there there, but the uni will have good records and appearance of arm's length (if not in fact) or else the management is incompetent.

You sound very well informed, , are you aware of advanced restorative medical care for atheletes paid for through the athelete's Medicaid insurance?