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Seems to me they are making the cost of living a normal comfortable life especially for the millenials so prohibitive that they jump at things like UBI and a socialised system run by the state.

Seems to me they are making the cost of living a normal comfortable life especially for the millenials so prohibitive that they jump at things like UBI and a socialised system run by the state.

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[–] [deleted] 4 pts

No argument, as usual.

Just admit it; you just want to be entitled to things you never actually worked for. You want to own something without ever having a feasible claim to it (besides "working" there). Yes, you showed up a swept a floor, that means you and every other worthless, skill-less dreg should own the entire company, lmao. Fucking parasite.

[–] [deleted] 1 pt (edited )

While he is retired early in his cooperative and providing no work he is stealing from the labor of all the people working at the cooperative. He literally reallocates that excess labor to himself so he doesn't need to do anything. While they are getting paid 35 dollars an hour the collective is charging 38 and pocketing the extra 3 dollars to support the collectives oligarch class. Communism is just a shell game the only difference between it and capitalism is the workers have even less rights and own nothing. The party members are the oligarchs.

[–] -1 pt

Yes,they create the value

[–] [deleted] 2 pts (edited )

Labor theory of value is debunked garbage, retards must have zero shame whatsoever to continue peddling it.

If workers are so essential to "creating value", why don't they just work for themselves? Just offer to sweep floors directly and cut out the middle man.

Wait, no, you want the backing of an entire corporation, the marketing team, the management, the investors, etc, to provide you with a stable job and income....and you also feel entitled to own the entire thing having never contributed to any of those aspects of the company, and having absolutely no financial stake in the well-being of the company either.

Tell me again how this isn't just purely parasitic behaviour?

It's true that the work itself is essential, but the worker (the individual faggot) is highly expendable. If you're not willing to sweep the floor, some nigger will be, or a robot. YOU don't deserve to own shit just because you show up and complete a menial task. Ownership = stake and responsibility, something your average fat union worker retard knows nothing about.

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Yes, you're adding value that is stolen from you. As your "wage" is far less then what you make in terms of value.

As your "wage" is far less then what you make in terms of value.

This is complete nonsense given that there is no precise monetary value that can be attributed to the specific work you did. The closest you can get is the wage you are paid, and you're paid the wage regardless of whether or not the company actually makes money (or if it makes tons of money).

If you want to be entitled to the total profits of a business, you need to actually own the business, which means you assume the risks if the business loses money.

If I work for a company and get paid 50 grand or whatever, I get paid that 50 grand regardless of whether the company makes a million dollars that year, or loses a million dollars.

Socialist retards only ever want to take full credit for the profits a company generates, but I've never heard one say the worker should owe money if the business goes into the red. If your labor "adds value" when the company is profitable, then it stands to reason that it "subtracts value" when the company loses money.

So, do you actually agree that an owner should have direct financial responsibility for the business, or do you just want your cake and eat it too (parasite)?

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The workers are why there is any profit they took it from you